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RE: 2-big bang theory in the Quran
February 26, 2022 at 10:11 pm
(July 13, 2010 at 4:20 am)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: this is the continuation of the thread "one of the proofs that god exist"
2-The big bang theory:
“Do not the Unbelievers see That the heavens and the earth
Were joined together (as one Unit of Creation), before We clove them
asunder?” (Quran 21:30)
This clearly indicates that the universe(heavens and the earth was) joint entity the word used in Arabic is (retq) which is used to refer to different substances that make up a whole. And then god clove them asunder the word used in Arabic is (fataqa) which means to become separated from each other or to separate something by destroying its structure
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/bb_theory.html
3-expansion of the universe:
"And it is We who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it."(Quran, 51:47)
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_expansion.html
Good point indeed.
1. Why would Muhammad take the unnecessary risk of speculating about the events of creation?
2. Why would he get the right answer every time, among a plethora of competing myths and legends that were available at his time?
3. Why didn't any of his contamporaneous detractors denounce him based on some competing credible account of creation?
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RE: 2-big bang theory in the Quran
February 26, 2022 at 10:24 pm
Stange. The questuion, "why would he get the answer right", seems engineered to ignore the fact that big mo very commonly got the answer wrong.
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RE: 2-big bang theory in the Quran
February 26, 2022 at 10:40 pm
you really “theory” has a specific meaning, and nothing whatsoever in koran can possible qualify as one, right?
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RE: 2-big bang theory in the Quran
February 27, 2022 at 8:05 am
All of these necroposts regarding Quranic ‘predictions’ are starting to remind me of your best friend’s 35 year old brother who smoked weed all day and enjoyed nothing so much as explaining to you that the existence of Bigfoot is being covered up by the CIA.
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RE: 2-big bang theory in the Quran
February 27, 2022 at 11:24 am
(February 27, 2022 at 8:05 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: All of these necroposts regarding Quranic ‘predictions’ are starting to remind me of your best friend’s 35 year old brother who smoked weed all day and enjoyed nothing so much as explaining to you that the existence of Bigfoot is being covered up by the CIA.
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RE: 2-big bang theory in the Quran
February 27, 2022 at 7:18 pm
The Koran never predicted anything and it's simply you and every other fundamentalist warping reality to fit your absurd beliefs every religion does this and your are all wrong 
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RE: 2-big bang theory in the Quran
February 27, 2022 at 8:03 pm
(February 26, 2022 at 10:11 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: 1. Why would Muhammad take the unnecessary risk of speculating about the events of creation?
2. Why would he get the right answer every time, among a plethora of competing myths and legends that were available at his time?
What? Mohammed, or should I say, writers of the Koran, literally copied creation myths and legends from Jews.
(February 26, 2022 at 10:11 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: 3. Why didn't any of his contamporaneous detractors denounce him based on some competing credible account of creation?
Because people at that time and place didn't have science and therefore no credible account of "creation" than someone just making stuff up.
(February 27, 2022 at 7:18 pm)Helios Wrote: The Koran never predicted anything and it's simply you and every other fundamentalist warping reality to fit your absurd beliefs every religion does this and your are all wrong
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RE: 2-big bang theory in the Quran
February 27, 2022 at 8:25 pm
Quote:1. Why would Muhammad take the unnecessary risk of speculating about the events of creation?
Because he likely believed no one would ever be able to prove him wrong or if they did his moronic followers would twist reality to fit his dogma
Quote:2. Why would he get the right answer every time, among a plethora of competing myths and legends that were available at his time?
He didn't get them right
Quote:3. Why didn't any of his contamporaneous detractors denounce him based on some competing credible account of creation?
Because they also just made shit up
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RE: 2-big bang theory in the Quran
February 27, 2022 at 11:35 pm
I see a reference to heaven. I guess heaven would need to expand as more men died and requisite virgins need be conjured. But, where do the quoted verses use the term "universe?" Right. They don't. Stop being silly.
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RE: 2-big bang theory in the Quran
February 28, 2022 at 1:39 am
(July 13, 2010 at 4:20 am)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: this is the continuation of the thread "one of the proofs that god exist"
2-The big bang theory:
“Do not the Unbelievers see That the heavens and the earth
Were joined together (as one Unit of Creation), before We clove them
asunder?” (Quran 21:30)
This clearly indicates that the universe(heavens and the earth was) joint entity the word used in Arabic is (retq) which is used to refer to different substances that make up a whole. And then god clove them asunder the word used in Arabic is (fataqa) which means to become separated from each other or to separate something by destroying its structure
The Earth has an age of 4.5 billion years. The Big Bang was 13.8 billion years ago. The two are separated by more than twice the age of the Earth. Congratulations on disproving the Quran. Would you like to try another religion? We have thousands to choose from.
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