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What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 14, 2016 at 7:43 am
My favourite no brainers;
I was arguing with a convinced Catholic on another forum once. He asserted that the other planets orbited the earth. He claimed that without a fixed third point of reference it was impossible to disprove him.
I pointed out that the distance of those planets from the earth was not constant, and indeed not constant in exactly the way we would expect if all of them - including the earth - was orbiting another body that occupied the exact position that the Sun happens to be in.
I didn't get a response.
We moved on to evolution, and I invited him to visit the Smithsonian to review the mountain of evidence. His reply was "what evidence?".
What are your personal classics?
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 14, 2016 at 8:42 am
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I think, "Well who made everything then?" is the laziest, most redundant question-begging stupid defense I have heard.
Most theistic arguments just boil down to this, once you've cut through the crap. Someone must have done some stuff, and it just happens to be my personal invisible friend.
Also, "Everything is evidence of god". That's just another way of putting the same thing, really.
"Hitler was an atheist!" is perhaps even more completely stupid.
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 14, 2016 at 8:45 am
My brother is the most annoying believer ever, in that I can't really get to him no matter what I say. He'll listen to me, he'll even agree that he's irrational and so on, but he'll still believe. I think he's simply too brainwashed to even consider the actual possibility of letting go, no matter how stupid a belief it is.
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 14, 2016 at 9:06 am
Pascal's Wager, and the argument from design. Some people think there are only two options, or that if there's a divine creator, it must be their theistic god of choice.
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 14, 2016 at 9:15 am
Actually posted this earlier today on another thread:
"God is metafeesical. You must beleef dis."
Haunting, yes? I know.
Sent chills down my back!
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 14, 2016 at 9:23 am
"Life is pretty" One guy I worked with a long time ago pointed to the night time sky as his evidence. I told him if it was so pretty to take a space shuttle up to orbit take a space walk and take your helmet off.
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 14, 2016 at 9:39 am
Haha, yeah. Pretty deadly.
How kind of God to stick us to a tiny rock in the middle of nowhere to keep us safe from the deadly environment he chose to make everything else out of.
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 14, 2016 at 9:56 am
Oh, I can't even begin, the examples are too numerous.
It's like asking, "What's the wettest water molecule you've ever encountered?"
But I recall having an argument about corporal punishment in parenting,
with a devout theist once, who believed in "spare the rod, spoil the child"
and her argument was,
"God gave us bums so we could be spanked."
I felt like telling her I know lots of gay men in the fetish scene who would agree with her,
and then use a similar argument about why God gave us anuses,
or why God put the prostate gland where He did.
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 14, 2016 at 9:58 am
* psst, Vorlon......you're on. *