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RE: Who will be the running mates?
February 22, 2016 at 5:50 pm
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(February 22, 2016 at 5:48 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: (February 22, 2016 at 5:44 pm)Heat Wrote: Bernie Sanders is beating every Republican by numbers that could run against him in the general election.
He is beating Trump by nearly 10 7 points.
Clinton is doing much worse than Bernie in terms of elect-ability.
Edit:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/..._race.html
That's because no one is taking him seriously yet. Wait till he shows himself to be a real threat to the GOP. I can't believe even people on this forum are using the same arguments as the conservative media:
"Sanders won't win the nomination"
"How can you possibly say if he will or will not win the nomination?"
"HE JUST WON'T! I KNOW HE WONT!"
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
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RE: Who will be the running mates?
February 22, 2016 at 5:52 pm
Quote:Bernie Sanders is beating every Republican by numbers that could run against him in the general election.
Oh, stop it. They haven't even started working Sanders over yet because they don't consider him the likely nominee. If he ever did get the nomination you'd hear the word SOCIALIST repeated so often your ears would bleed and with the morons who make up the 'murrican electorate it would work.
And again, that has nothing to do with subtracting two democratic votes in the senate.
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RE: Who will be the running mates?
February 22, 2016 at 5:54 pm
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(February 22, 2016 at 5:50 pm)Heat Wrote: (February 22, 2016 at 5:48 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: That's because no one is taking him seriously yet. Wait till he shows himself to be a real threat to the GOP. I can't believe even people on this forum are using the same arguments as the conservative media:
"Sanders won't win the nomination"
"How can you possibly say if he will or will not win the nomination?"
"HE JUST WON'T! I KNOW HE WONT!"
You're being far too optimistic than you have reason to be. Do you really want to risk another clusterfuck of a republican holding the highest office in the (American) land just so you can chase an impossible dream with no legs to stand on?
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RE: Who will be the running mates?
February 22, 2016 at 5:56 pm
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(February 22, 2016 at 5:54 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: (February 22, 2016 at 5:50 pm)Heat Wrote: I can't believe even people on this forum are using the same arguments as the conservative media:
"Sanders won't win the nomination"
"How can you possibly say if he will or will not win the nomination?"
"HE JUST WON'T! I KNOW HE WONT!"
You're being far too optimistic than you have reason to be. Do you really want to risk another clusterfuck of a republican holding the highest office in the (American) land just so you can chase an impossible dream with no legs to stand on? Did you not click the link I posted?
Clinton would be a WORSE GENERAL ELECTION CANDIDATE! We would stand MORE OF A CHANCE IF BERNIE WAS ELECTED.
We would run a greater risk of a republican being elected IF IT WAS CLINTON!
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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RE: Who will be the running mates?
February 22, 2016 at 6:00 pm
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(February 22, 2016 at 5:52 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Bernie Sanders is beating every Republican by numbers that could run against him in the general election.
Oh, stop it. They haven't even started working Sanders over yet because they don't consider him the likely nominee. If he ever did get the nomination you'd hear the word SOCIALIST repeated so often your ears would bleed and with the morons who make up the 'murrican electorate it would work.
And again, that has nothing to do with subtracting two democratic votes in the senate. "Even though Sanders would clearly win in the general election let's just assume that because of something I do not know, and that reasons I cannot describe would change results by an amount that I am entirely guessing, and Sanders would still lose because ___"
That's basically what you're saying.
It's like "Oh he's winning? He'll still lose. Why? Fuck if I know, he just will."
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Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
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RE: Who will be the running mates?
February 22, 2016 at 6:00 pm
(February 22, 2016 at 5:56 pm)Heat Wrote: (February 22, 2016 at 5:54 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: You're being far too optimistic than you have reason to be. Do you really want to risk another clusterfuck of a republican holding the highest office in the (American) land just so you can chase an impossible dream with no legs to stand on? Did you not click the link I posted?
Clinton would be a WORSE GENERAL ELECTION CANDIDATE! We would stand MORE OF A CHANCE IF BERNIE WAS ELECTED.
We would run a greater risk of a republican being elected IF IT WAS CLINTON!
Polls aren't definitive proof of anything, especially not this early on and given the circumstances(which Min and even I touched on earlier).
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RE: Who will be the running mates?
February 22, 2016 at 6:01 pm
(February 22, 2016 at 6:00 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: (February 22, 2016 at 5:56 pm)Heat Wrote: Did you not click the link I posted?
Clinton would be a WORSE GENERAL ELECTION CANDIDATE! We would stand MORE OF A CHANCE IF BERNIE WAS ELECTED.
We would run a greater risk of a republican being elected IF IT WAS CLINTON!
Polls aren't definitive proof of anything, especially not this early on and given the circumstances(which Min and even I touched on earlier). When everything points against your position that Sanders isn't electable, you still stay faithful to an anti-sanders nomination.
Your bias is strong.
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RE: Who will be the running mates?
February 22, 2016 at 6:05 pm
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(February 22, 2016 at 6:01 pm)Heat Wrote: (February 22, 2016 at 6:00 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Polls aren't definitive proof of anything, especially not this early on and given the circumstances(which Min and even I touched on earlier). When everything points against your position that Sanders isn't electable, you still stay faithful to an anti-sanders nomination.
Your bias is strong.
Not everything. Common sense indicates the opposite.
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RE: Who will be the running mates?
February 22, 2016 at 6:09 pm
(February 22, 2016 at 6:05 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: (February 22, 2016 at 6:01 pm)Heat Wrote: When everything points against your position that Sanders isn't electable, you still stay faithful to an anti-sanders nomination.
Your bias is strong.
Not everything. Common sense indicates the opposite. Common sense would be to agree with what the actual numbers logically depict, not to go with your own personal imaginary scenario that isn't representative of the real world in the slightest but a construct of your emotionally influenced personal biases.
Which is better:
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RE: Who will be the running mates?
February 22, 2016 at 6:13 pm
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I'm just amazed that you guys manage to pack all those debates in during that short two-and-a-half-year campaign! Thank god there's no time for trivial issues to start distracting from the important stuff!
Here in the UK, we have the opposite problem. We campaign for about 2 weeks to an audience of one bloke and his dog. No one gives a shit, least of all the politicians. It's all fucked anyway. And as long as they keep the theft of public funds under a few billion, it's much better than having a bunch of blowhards who fuck everything up by trying to change the world. Look at all the idiots who swagger into Palestine thinking they can "point out a few honest truths" to the locals.
Just get out of the way, Clinton, Trump, Cameron, whoever, and let me live my friggin' life.
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