A question about the flood myth, baraminology, and Pangaea

[Jackalope]

In a pinch, it also serves admirably for rolling blunts.

Or wiping your ass.

I disagree, the paper is not nearly absorbent enough.

But as firestarter, it works .

[FebruaryOfReason]

We're drifting away from Robby's OP here.

Just like all the water drifted away!

Sorry.

And as Simon Moon has pointed out, the atmosphere would have got almost as thin as Drich's argument, what with being spread over a much wider surface

Combined with the lower density of the atmosphere, I wonder what the cooling effect of all that water being drawn off by solar winds would have been, why it isn't mentioned in the Bible, and how Noah survived it at 500 years old?

Seriously Drich, if this were a kid's story you would throw it in the trash. Give it up man. If you aren't going to concede the lamentable bollox of this story, then what do you think is rubbish?

[Minimalist]

Just like all the water drifted away!

When in doubt the creatards usually fall back on magic.  You know  "goddidit."  It's no problem for them.  They simply conjure up their Magical Mystery Man and there are no problems that can't be wished away.

[drfuzzy]

[Drich]

 

seriously?!?!?

Maybe you can ask one of you more intelligent peers to explain this to you, if you don't want to take my word for it.. but if this did happen then the water would push the atmosphere up with it. So what you count now 30K feet, is 30,000 feet from is sea level. Now add enough water to encompass the earth to what we now call 30,000 ft, and... it becomes the new SEA LEVEL! so the new 30K feet would be what we call 60K feet. So what would the conditions at the new sea level/30k feet? the same as they are now at our current sea level.

We do not measure altitude from the lowest part of the sea floor. Otherwise we at sea level would be 7 miles up.

I kills me when a poo poo-er doesn't understand the fundamentals he is trying to use to discredit God. This person/you heard this somewhere and just lemming-ed it here with out any thought or vetting. You just assumed it was true because that is what someone else in the group said... Good thing you weren't born when the earth was flat huh???

Seriously ?!

Maybe you should ask one of your more intelligent peers (as if there are any among creationists) what would happen to volume and pressure of the atmosphere, if it were pushed out by this alleged 30K foot rise in sea level?

What makes you think what constitutes as atmosphere several thousand years ago is what we know the atmospheric make up to be now?

Or is it your "belief" that the earth's atmosphere has always been at it's current concentrations and density?

[Drich]

Hydroplate theory? Catastrophic plate tectonics? Lunar bukkake hypothesis (yes, really)?

And you probably thought Baraminology was the weirdest of the flood myth apologetics! :p

I was hoping someone was going to say "It rained".

I'm not electing myself one of Mancunian's more intelligent peers, but I'll see if I can explain it anyway.
According to my primitive queries; (apologies for the decimal system, creatards. I'll try to keep things down to 2 decimal places for you);

The Earth has a radius of 6,371 kilometres. This would give it an initial volume of 1.08321 x 10 ^ 12 cubic km
30000ft is 9.14 kilometres, requiring a new radius of 6380.14. This would give it a new volume of 1.08767 x 10 ^ 12 cubic km.

We have to work out how much land mass is currently sticking up above the water. That's problematic. Lets say that half of the volume in that 9.14 extra kilometres is already there in the form of protruding land mass - generous but not ludicrous.

This means 4669845677.45 cubic kilometres of water appeared from nowhere due to God Magic, then disappeared by the same mechanism, all conveniently leaving no evidence at all.

The more I hear about this God bloke, the more amazing I realise he is!

It did rain sport, but what most of you 'it rained' guys forget is the well springs that flooded the earth.

[Drich]

As Genesis 7 tells us It came from within the earth...

Their is a theory of planetary critical mass dictated by core density.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication...tary_Cores

Basically, our planet can only ever be so big based on it's core density. that is why a gas giant like jupiter has 100X more atmosphere than we do. or why a slightly smaller planet like mars has next to no atmosphere and or surface water. Jupiter has a more dense core, and mars does not.

If the water did indeed come from with in the earth as Genesis 6 explains and filled the planet to what we would now consider to be a 30K ft, mark. the outside diameter of the planet would have far exceeded our planets ability to retain this added volume as this new external mass far exceeds our planetary mass index.

So what happened to all the water? The same thing that happened to all the water on mars. solar winds took it away.

You're using the concepts of solar winds and planetary mass indexes to defend the internal inconsistencies in a story about a guy who built a boat big enough to hold two of everything in the world when he was 500 years old?

Seriously?

It disturbs me that people like you can vote and own firearms.

your using doubt and a sad attempt at a general dismissal to dismiss a scientific principle?

Seriously??

It disturbs me that you guys vote and try to pretend to be the 'enlightened ones.'

[Old Baby]

I always thought God split the continents at the time of the Tower of Babel, at the same time that he confused everyone's language. Just seemed to me it was more logical to split everyone up at that time. As for how he did it, I dunno. I guess he caused everyone on Earth to go into a momentary coma so they wouldn't remember it, then temporarily evacuated them to a nether dimension where they would be safe, then he changed matter to energy and just made it all reappear as the new layout of planet earth. Since he's God he can do all that y'know. Then, he put the people on the continents he wanted them on, snapped his fingers and life resumed without anyone being the wiser, except for the guy who wrote Genesis.

[FebruaryOfReason]

You're using the concepts of solar winds and planetary mass indexes to defend the internal inconsistencies in a story about a guy who built a boat big enough to hold two of everything in the world when he was 500 years old?

Seriously?

It disturbs me that people like you can vote and own firearms.

your using doubt and a sad attempt at a  general dismissal to dismiss a scientific principle?

Seriously??

It disturbs me that you guys vote and try to pretend to be the 'enlightened ones.'

It's not a scientific principle. It's a hypothesis you haven't proved, or even offered anything at all to support. You might as well believe that the Flying Spaghetti Monster swallowed all the excess water - why not? There are no more or less reasons to believe it was all done via His Noodly Appendage.

And at least the FSM doesn't have a legacy of arbitrary murder. (1 Chronicles 13:9-10).

And don't talk to me about sad.

Pissing your life away on a fairytale that's full of holes, just because you don't have the balls to face the reality of death - that's what's sad.

[Simon Moon]

Seriously ?!

Maybe you should ask one of your more intelligent peers (as if there are any among creationists) what would happen to volume and pressure of the atmosphere, if it were pushed out by this alleged 30K foot rise in sea level?

What makes you think what constitutes as atmosphere several thousand years ago is what we know the atmospheric make up to be now?

Or is it your "belief" that the earth's atmosphere has always been at it's current concentrations and density?

Of course it is known, by the use of science, not ancient mythological texts, that the atmosphere has changed quite drastically over the earth's existence. 

But it has not changed that much over the last several thousand years. Not enough to account for what you are suggesting, that's for sure. 

If so, it would have been so dense before the 30K level of sea rise, that life on earth before the 30K sea level rise, would have been drastically different. As would have been the weather and the amount of sunlight reaching the surface. In other words, the earth would not have resembled anything like it actually did for thousands of years.