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Synthetic meat
February 23, 2016 at 10:12 am
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We might be soon living in a world where we'll have the option to eat artifically grown meat. The health benefits are obvious enough(for me, at least). What are your thoughts on it, though?
Quote:In vitro meat, also called cultured meat, synthetic meat, shmeat, is an animal-flesh product that has never been part of a living animal. In the 21st century, several research projects have worked on in vitro meat in the laboratory. The first in vitro beefburger, created by a Dutch team, was eaten at a demonstration for the press in London in August 2013. There remain difficulties to be overcome before in vitro meat becomes commercially available. Cultured meat is prohibitively expensive, but it is expected that the cost could be reduced to compete with that of conventionally obtained meat as technology improves. In vitro meat is also a cultural issue. Some argue that it is less objectionable than traditionally obtained meat because it doesn't involve killing and reduces the risk of animal cruelty, while others disagree with eating meat that has not developed naturally.
Here's a podcast where a CEO of such a company that is in the business of growing cultured meat talks about it at length.
Just listen from the 19 minute mark forward.
https://soundcloud.com/samharrisorg/meat-without-murder
* The wiki quote/link is there for practicality's sake only. The focus of this thread, at least for those unfamiliar with the subject, should be the podcast. Listen to it if you have 40 minutes or so to spare and tell me what you think. I don't think you will regret it.
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Synthetic meat
February 23, 2016 at 10:18 am
I want synthetic vegetables. I'm a meatatarian.
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RE: Synthetic meat
February 23, 2016 at 10:20 am
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(February 23, 2016 at 10:18 am)KUSA Wrote: I want synthetic vegetables. I'm a meatatarian.
What do you mean, or is this merely a joke?
In case it isn't, the process we're talking about involves growing real cells from animals into large quantities of meat. It's the same meat in every possible way, except it's free of antibiotics and all kinds contaminants you get in the current environment we get our meat from. Also, with cultured meat we will be/are able to modify some of its components like fats to make it even healthier. We're talking about the same taste and the same makeup as classical meat in every relevant way.
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RE: Synthetic meat
February 23, 2016 at 10:22 am
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In vitro meat, as technical exercise, is amazing. The idea that it is intended to be (or will ever be) "competitive" with conventional production, however, is absurd. I think it's shortsighted and wasteful, personally...but there will always be someone chasing a niche. Comfort food for guilty eaters.
There is no credible future for us on this planet without substantial livestock production. Our conscience has to come to terms with that, somehow.
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RE: Synthetic meat
February 23, 2016 at 10:25 am
(February 23, 2016 at 10:22 am)Rhythm Wrote: In vitro meat, as technical exercise, is amazing. The idea that it is intended to be (or will ever be) "competitive" with conventional production, however, is absurd. I think it's shortsighted and wasteful, personally...but there will always be someone chasing a niche. Comfort food for guilty eaters.
Sam conducted a poll on twitter where ~80% said they would switch to it. Of the 20% that said they wouldn't reasons such as these were cited: it's just creepy, it might not be safe, it will be expensive, I'm a vegetarian/vegan.
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RE: Synthetic meat
February 23, 2016 at 10:26 am
Synthetic will not have the variety of flavors. I doubt they would make cattle, pig, goat, chicken, fish, frog, turtle, .................
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February 23, 2016 at 10:26 am
(February 23, 2016 at 10:22 am)Rhythm Wrote: In vitro meat, as technical exercise, is amazing. The idea that it is intended to be (or will ever be) "competitive" with conventional production, however, is absurd. I think it's shortsighted and wasteful, personally...but there will always be someone chasing a niche. Comfort food for guilty eaters.
There is no credible future for us on this planet without substantial livestock production.
What exactly do you mean here, I don't understand. Could you elaborate?
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RE: Synthetic meat
February 23, 2016 at 10:27 am
(February 23, 2016 at 10:26 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Synthetic will not have the variety of flavors. I doubt they would make cattle, pig, goat, chicken, fish, frog, turtle, .................
From what I've learned so far about it that will definitely not be a problem. It will have all as many flavors as there are animals to take and grow cells from. So how do you figure?
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RE: Synthetic meat
February 23, 2016 at 10:31 am
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I highly advise those that voted either no or have doubts about how healthy cultured meat would be to listen to the podcast I linked to in the OP, if they want to encounter the opportunity of very possibly having their minds changed on the topic and are interested enough in the possibility of it, if real, to find out more about it.
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RE: Synthetic meat
February 23, 2016 at 10:35 am
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(February 23, 2016 at 10:27 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: (February 23, 2016 at 10:26 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Synthetic will not have the variety of flavors. I doubt they would make cattle, pig, goat, chicken, fish, frog, turtle, .................
From what I've learned so far about it that will definitely not be a problem. It will have all as many flavors as there are animals to take and grow cells from. So how do you figure?
And what do they feed the cells? A lot of what the animal tastes like comes from what they eat. Ever had an acorn fed pig? Grass fed vs corn fed beef? What about the non muscle parts I like? They going to have synth cracklin? Fried synth ears? Synth oysters (shell or rocky mtn)?
Edit: Plus how are they going to add different textures?
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