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The Assault on Trump is about to Begin
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(March 6, 2016 at 2:17 am)Jenny A Wrote:
(March 6, 2016 at 1:45 am)scoobysnack Wrote: What's nice about Trump is that he's getting more and more people that normally didn't give a fuck about politics to start looking into things and get more involved. A goal of the elite is to keep people poor so they have to spend so much time working along with distracting them with fictional TV and movies that they have no time to think about politics, so they don't get involved and allow the establishment to carry on unhindered. People on the left and right and even in the middle are waking up to the control mechanisms that have been put in place, and starting to pay attention. Especially now that we are seeing the establishment turn on Trump, things will start to come out in the open because we are forcing them to show their hand. As 2016 progresses, I think people are going to finally start waking up, whether they support Trump or not. The establishment are in panic mode, and they are going to show their power and people will finally see it.
Those were record turnouts because the people who are actually paying attention to Trump, aren't racist, and think, went out to vote against him.

I have not one nice thing to say about Trump. Trump is for Trump. His actions make it clear he's not for anyone else, especially not the working stiff.  He's an asshole, a misogynist,  a racist, and cares only about winning. .  He knows nothing about the economy or foriegn affairs.   His policies change by the minute. He makes up facts. He insults rather than replies. He will say anything he thinks will get a visceral response. He's borderline fascist.

The GOP is panicked.  And well they should be. They've created Frankenstein's monster. But, make no mistake, he is a monster.  I am an atheist,  and given the choice, I'd take Cruz before Trump.  And I'm sure Trump is no real Christian. Trump believes in the main chance for Trump and nothing else.

We can discuss your paranoia about an elite conspiracy some other time.

Well either way, people are getting engaged and involved which is what this country needs. I agree with you that he insults rather then replies with answers. I'm starting to get sick of it. I want some substance. He comes across as an egotistical narcissistic egomaniac. I don't think he's racist though, but people will perceive it how they will. It's almost like he's in beast mode just trying to confront every attack that comes at him, to the point that this whole election is really childish. He needs to start addressing his policy instead of attacking those that are attacking him, but the problem is he's being attacked from all sides. My support is waning until he can start talk about issues, instead of attacks. However that may be part of the strategy to control the narrative, by making it all about mindless attacks, and people's hurt feelings. At some point I hope the GOP can start talking issues instead of attacking each other. I'm not a fan of the GOP, but I really do think this is their strategy, just attack attack attack, and in the end the two party system is owned by those at the top, so to them, this is all just a game anyway. The thing they fear the most is an awake public, because even though they have the money, we have the numbers, and it's hard to control people that start to wake up.
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RE: The Assault on Trump is about to Begin
So naive.
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RE: The Assault on Trump is about to Begin
(March 6, 2016 at 2:33 am)Cato Wrote: So naive.

About what? In the end, people are going to vote for the establishment candidate who is presented by the establishment just to vote against Trump. I would say that's being naive, considering not a single one of you is part of their club and they despise us. The establishment controls both the left and the right. It's basically the Hegelian dialectic, and full spectrum dominance.
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You think that somehow that Trump, who certainly is rich enough and has motivation to do so, is somehow has not use his wealth and power to influence politics?

Are you really that stupid?

Trump may not be the establishment, but he almost certainly is one of those pulling the strings.
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Hegelian? You have already proven you know fuck all about Marx.

You're naive, and have plenty of company, thinking modern electoral politics has anything to do with issues. Survivor and The Kardashians make money from the same people you trust at the ballot.
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(March 6, 2016 at 2:56 am)Cato Wrote: Hegelian? You have already proven you know fuck all about Marx.

You're naive, and have plenty of company, thinking modern electoral politics has anything to do with issues. Survivor and The Kardashians make money from the same people you trust at the ballot.

Why does the left love Marx? Communism has killed millions of their own people? Are they suicidal? Do you hate humanity like the establishment? I continue to have people on this forum come to the defense of communism. I assume because it'a an atheist forum, but still, why communism? Even where I live in Madison WI we have the communist party, but they are always trying to hide behind different labels, like progressive.
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(March 6, 2016 at 2:54 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You think that somehow that Trump, who certainly is rich enough and has motivation to do so, is somehow has not use his wealth and power to influence politics?

Are you really that stupid?

Trump may not be the establishment, but he almost certainly is one of those pulling the strings.

I don't think you know what ultra rich really is. In fact most people that use the word establishment don't really understand it. I use it because it's something people can relate to, but it's an ideology that unites them, not just wealth. They despise the common people, and they believe we are all both on the left and right too stupid to understand so it's up to them to implement policy. Democrats that believe the establishment is Republicans, are the most disillusioned, but there are also the right that think the left has taken over. Both are right, but it's really just something they use to keep us fighting with each other so we don't wake up to the fact they are controlling both parties, and us.

People wouldn't understand the concentric circles of power which unite them, and as you go further up, it just gets stranger. We simply can't relate, because we are actually good people. If I even talked about the bad stuff at the top no one would believe it, so some things are better left unsaid.
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RE: The Assault on Trump is about to Begin
(March 6, 2016 at 2:54 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You think that somehow that Trump, who certainly is rich enough and has motivation to do so, is somehow has not use his wealth and power to influence politics?

Are you really that stupid?

Trump may not be the establishment, but he almost certainly is one of those pulling the strings.

Agreed, but Trump at least has the merit of working the system from the other side. Nobody else has said this, but Trump has hijacked the Tea Party. Trump has basically told the establishment to fuck off (including Fox News). 

Think about this. Trump hand waived at religion yet is beating Cruz’s ass in the South. Cruz won Maine and Kansas vs. Louisiana and Kentucky. The liberal and conservative press are calling this a draw;however, we all know better and so does Trump. 

Hillary could have had a campaign against anyone but Trump. She simply won't survive him.
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RE: The Assault on Trump is about to Begin
(March 6, 2016 at 3:11 am)scoobysnack Wrote:
(March 6, 2016 at 2:56 am)Cato Wrote: Hegelian? You have already proven you know fuck all about Marx.

You're naive, and have plenty of company, thinking modern electoral politics has anything to do with issues. Survivor and The Kardashians make money from the same people you trust at the ballot.

Why does the left love Marx? Communism has killed millions of their own people? Are they suicidal? Do you hate humanity like the establishment? I continue to have people on this forum come to the defense of communism. I assume because it'a an atheist forum, but still, why communism? Even where I live in Madison WI we have the communist party, but they are always trying to hide behind different labels, like progressive.
So you want to double down on your ignorance.

I challenge you to demonstrate how many people were killed in the name of Marx. Have you ever read The Communist Manifesto?
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RE: The Assault on Trump is about to Begin
(March 6, 2016 at 3:31 am)Cato Wrote:
(March 6, 2016 at 3:11 am)scoobysnack Wrote: Why does the left love Marx? Communism has killed millions of their own people? Are they suicidal? Do you hate humanity like the establishment? I continue to have people on this forum come to the defense of communism. I assume because it'a an atheist forum, but still, why communism? Even where I live in Madison WI we have the communist party, but they are always trying to hide behind different labels, like progressive.
So you want to double down on your ignorance.

I challenge you to demonstrate how many people were killed in the name of Marx. Have you ever read The Communist Manifesto?

Here's a body count, but the numbers are estimates:

http://www.scottmanning.com/content/comm...ody-count/

Why are you a communist, or at least support it? I'd like to read the communist manifesto honestly to really understand it, but clearly I don't, but you must so tell me more. What do you think of ex KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov talking about communism? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
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