The Quest for the Historical Paul

[Minimalist]

Since 'paul' has no more defenders we can move on to the next topic of early xtian bullshit.

New thread begins.

[abaris]

Since 'paul' has no more defenders we can move on to the next topic of early xtian bullshit.

New thread begins.

You know, early christian bullshit was much more agreeable that later christian bullshit. There were strong elements being opposed to capital punishment, military service and even delivering criminals to the authorities. Which, of course changed, when they saw an opening to slip into the Roman emperor's ass.

[Minimalist]

The problem with 'early xtian bullshit' is that for most of it we are stuck with the narratives of 'later xtian bullshitters.' 

You know, I've previously mentioned that Justin Martyr never mentioned 'paul' or any of the gospels by name and he was writing c 160 AD.  Did you know that he somehow managed to never mention "popes" or "bishops" either?

Its almost as if that horseshit hadn't been invented in the mid 2d century.


( Don't take my word for it.  Go to Peter Kirby's excellent Early Christian Writings website, find the section for Justin and use your search feature on each of his writings.)

[abaris]

Its almost as if that horseshit hadn't been invented in the mid 2d century.

Of course it didn't. But the ones opposing capital punishment, military service and any kind of aiding criminal justice are on record. And since it's not in the best interest of the later Roman church and their long history of field curates to have that kind of narrative around, I tend to regard it as genuine.

[Minimalist]

Do you have any citations for that?

There are so many forgeries that almost nothing they wrote can be taken at face value but I wouldn't mind checking them out.