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RE: If Heaven and Hell were proved real...?
July 24, 2010 at 5:53 am
But which heaven and hell?
There's been many,many variations.
Even within xtianity no-one agrees about what they are.
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RE: If Heaven and Hell were proved real...?
July 24, 2010 at 7:46 am
Well, if they were proven real (though I'm gonna side with doubt on this one), it would also mean that many other things have been proven real, like the most obvious one, the existence of a God. After all, if you got a Heaven and a Hell, you need someone to say who gets to go where don't you? And I say of a God, because there are many religions who have a Heaven and a Hell. So OK, lets say its proven, just for the sake of argument, well, if what most of those religions say is true, all believers will be judged according to the life they led and all non believers are going to Hell for backing up the wrong horse, so us Atheists are kinda screwed either way!
One thing that will, at least personally, satisfy me, is that all those really hardcore believers, you know, the type that, for example, assassinates abortion doctors, or priests who molest altar boys, will also go to Hell, making their twisted little version of religion also the stuff unacceptable to Heaven! The look on their face when they cross the fiery gates of Hell when they expect to go to Heaven would be priceless don't you think?
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RE: If Heaven and Hell were proved real...?
July 24, 2010 at 7:55 am
And we'd all be there giving them shit as they enter.
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RE: If Heaven and Hell were proved real...?
July 25, 2010 at 2:23 am
(July 24, 2010 at 7:55 am)Zen Badger Wrote: And we'd all be there giving them shit as they enter.
No you want you'll be to mad at God to care about anything else. Hell's your choice not God's, hell is a place where you can vent at God for eternity and no one but you can hear your venting.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: If Heaven and Hell were proved real...?
July 25, 2010 at 2:32 am
Hell is a figment of your imagination.
Careful, or you'll waste your whole life fearing it so much that you'll forget to live.
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RE: If Heaven and Hell were proved real...?
July 25, 2010 at 5:18 am
haha nice one! I'll use it in my discussions with friends if you don't mind
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RE: If Heaven and Hell were proved real...?
July 25, 2010 at 7:04 am
(July 25, 2010 at 2:23 am)Godschild Wrote: (July 24, 2010 at 7:55 am)Zen Badger Wrote: And we'd all be there giving them shit as they enter.
No you want you'll be to mad at God to care about anything else. Hell's your choice not God's, hell is a place where you can vent at God for eternity and no one but you can hear your venting.
The only reason I'd be mad at god under these circumstances is because of the deception he
would've perpertrated on us all, by making us believe he didn't exist.
And don't give me that "free will" shit.
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RE: If Heaven and Hell were proved real...?
July 25, 2010 at 7:06 am
Any evidence for an incompatablist version of free will? Not that I know of. I don't know how it could even be logically possible.
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RE: If Heaven and Hell were proved real...?
July 25, 2010 at 8:11 am
(July 25, 2010 at 2:23 am)Godschild Wrote: ... hell is a place where you can vent at God for eternity and no one but you can hear your venting.
So........
In hell you can vent but God is not there to hear it? But God is here, right now, and can hear my 'venting' in this life?
Sounds like I should be getting in all my God cursing as much as possible while the dipshit can hear me.
I would advocate, since we are operating on the assumption this heaven and hell and, by extention, this God is real, we all should curse the sorry son of a bitch as often and hardily as possible.
Fuck you God. ..|.,
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RE: If Heaven and Hell were proved real...?
July 25, 2010 at 10:40 am
Heaven
Hell
...I think life would go on.
(July 25, 2010 at 2:23 am)Godschild Wrote: Hell's your choice not God's, hell is a place where you can vent at God for eternity and no one but you can hear your venting. An eternity worshipping a sadistic self-righteous baby-murdering deity is hell.
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