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Voting Bernie?
April 4, 2016 at 12:36 am
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A guy at work made a good point.
I remain unbiased until I hear other opinions first, however.
If Bernie is a socialist, how will that affect this country if he is elected?
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RE: Voting Bernie?
April 4, 2016 at 12:58 am
It will work fine as soon as we find someone to pay for it.
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RE: Voting Bernie?
April 4, 2016 at 1:47 am
(April 4, 2016 at 12:58 am)vorlon13 Wrote: It will work fine as soon as we find someone to pay for it. Since when have we ever paid for anything? Why start now? Put it on the card.
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RE: Voting Bernie?
April 4, 2016 at 1:50 am
(April 4, 2016 at 1:47 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (April 4, 2016 at 12:58 am)vorlon13 Wrote: It will work fine as soon as we find someone to pay for it. Since when have we ever paid for anything? Why start now? Put it on the card.
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RE: Voting Bernie?
April 4, 2016 at 1:56 am
Actually he's a democratic socialist. If you're interested in some examples of democratic socialism, think highways and public schools. It's about using our tax money to actually benefit us instead of spending it on a shit ton of military crap we don't actually need. And if everyone was expected to pay their taxes instead of just the poor and middle class paying, then it would pay for itself.
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RE: Voting Bernie?
April 4, 2016 at 2:11 am
(April 4, 2016 at 12:36 am)Kitan Wrote: A guy at work made a good point.
I remain unbiased until I hear other opinions first, however.
If Bernie is a socialist, how will that affect this country if he is elected?
It won't as he will get nothing through the House.
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RE: Voting Bernie?
April 4, 2016 at 2:31 am
(April 4, 2016 at 2:11 am)Minimalist Wrote: (April 4, 2016 at 12:36 am)Kitan Wrote: A guy at work made a good point.
I remain unbiased until I hear other opinions first, however.
If Bernie is a socialist, how will that affect this country if he is elected?
It won't as he will get nothing through the House.
All those bitches are soon to be up for reseating as well.
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RE: Voting Bernie?
April 4, 2016 at 2:33 am
(April 4, 2016 at 2:11 am)Minimalist Wrote: (April 4, 2016 at 12:36 am)Kitan Wrote: A guy at work made a good point.
I remain unbiased until I hear other opinions first, however.
If Bernie is a socialist, how will that affect this country if he is elected?
It won't as he will get nothing through the House.
This. The biggest thing Bernie could realistically do is appoint someone(s) to the SCOTUS that will overturn Citizen's United and make a push for campaign finance reform. There are enough politicians that absolutely hate having to spend 95% of their time begging for money, and if there is a realistic chance that they will be free from that, they'll take it.
The thing is--if enough young voters are out to vote for Bernie to get the nomination, then there are enough to turn the House and Senate back to Democrats on election day. If so--then some of the reform could happen.
I don't realistically expect that Bernie Sanders can institute a single payer healthcare system, or even that college should be free. It should not, however, put 22 year olds in 80k in student loan debt in order to go to a decent school. College should not be something that kids from poor families have no chance at.
We are already a democratic socialist country. Students already get Federal Student Aid (FAFSA), Social Security exists, so does Medicare/Medicaid. Our infrastructure and military are examples of democratic socialism at work.
What we have done with the Reaganomics shit show is create a system of corporate welfare where we dare not upset a CFO lest they fire all their employees. This 'threat' is the biggest bogeyman that the American people has ever been sold, and it's dumb. If corporations are not given half the tax rebates they are given, yes, their profit margins will decrease, but their profit motive will not. They'll still hire employees and make products. We need a system where corporations are members of communities and not baron kings we are all beholden to. A climate of corporate responsibility is key.
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Voting Bernie?
April 4, 2016 at 4:32 am
(April 4, 2016 at 12:36 am)Kitan Wrote: A guy at work made a good point.
I remain unbiased until I hear other opinions first, however.
If Bernie is a socialist, how will that affect this country if he is elected?
Everything will be free. And I really mean free. Nobody has to ever pay for it.
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RE: Voting Bernie?
April 4, 2016 at 5:22 am
(April 4, 2016 at 4:32 am)KUSA Wrote: (April 4, 2016 at 12:36 am)Kitan Wrote: A guy at work made a good point.
I remain unbiased until I hear other opinions first, however.
If Bernie is a socialist, how will that affect this country if he is elected?
Everything will be free. And I really mean free. Nobody has to ever pay for it.
You did a really good job at summing up Fox News' understanding of Bernie Sanders' platform.
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