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Fustration! How is this favored?!
#11
RE: Fustration! How is this favored?!
Happy Birthday!

Don't be too hard on him. If I'd just had a heart valve split and replaced, the last thing I'd be worrying about is making rational sense Tongue
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#12
RE: Fustration! How is this favored?!
Sounds like he was convincing himself of that to give himself courage.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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#13
RE: Fustration! How is this favored?!
(April 9, 2016 at 5:56 pm)Goosebump Wrote:
(April 9, 2016 at 5:50 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: I guess I think it's a little sad that some as highly educated and wonderful as daddy can still be superstitious.

I'm superstitious sometimes, I knock on wood literally now and again (no double entendre intended). You can get the shivers from things and still be atheist. 

Also with older people they grew up in a very different time. A time rife with allot of religion in the family, community, peer groups etc. Hard to work out all that indoctrination, even today.

I suppose I just really worry over him, and I'm not sure if it's the healthiest way of coping. I'm gonna go find a teddy bear and some apple juice.
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#14
RE: Fustration! How is this favored?!
(April 9, 2016 at 8:37 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:
(April 9, 2016 at 5:56 pm)Goosebump Wrote: I'm superstitious sometimes, I knock on wood literally now and again (no double entendre intended). You can get the shivers from things and still be atheist. 

Also with older people they grew up in a very different time. A time rife with allot of religion in the family, community, peer groups etc. Hard to work out all that indoctrination, even today.

I suppose I just really worry over him, and I'm not sure if it's the healthiest way of coping. I'm gonna go find a teddy bear and some apple juice.

It's allot healthier (in a physical sense) then many many many alternatives. Also you never know, a door might crack open and you'll have a good talk with him. Kinda likely since he'll live forever now with his bionic value. 

Enjoy the AJ, I prefer Japanese love pillows myself, but to each his own.  Tongue
"I'm thick." - Me
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#15
RE: Fustration! How is this favored?!
(April 9, 2016 at 5:20 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: My father (well the man who raised me, my biological father passed last year) has just been hospitalized. He had a heart valve replaced. So I called the the hospital hysterical and in tears to figure what the hell is going on. Apparently a valve in daddy's heart split and he's had a temporary cow replacement until he can afford a mechanical one in a few years. Well the crazy man gets on the phone: "Sorry your present will be late this year princess! Didn't mean to let you down." And I fussed at him and told him not worry about such a silly thing like my birthday; and the only way I'd be disappointed is if he didn't get better. "Don't worry pumpkinhead, I'm fine. I made it out just fine. I'm blessed and divinely favored." Of course what could I say was "Yes, Daddy." But I was thinking either they've doped him good, or I just don't understand anything anymore. I love my daddy so much and sometimes I just can't understand how he can think this way. It worries me. And makes sad that for all we agree on this is something we'll never eye to eye on. And all I want is for him to see 250 years old, and scold his great great great grand children. Sigh.

Sounds like your dad has seen God working in his life in some way shape or form. For him he has been given all the proof and or conformation he needs to know God is there and is watching over him for a little while more. It's not about the valve but the reassurance he has been given to 'finish' what he needs to do so that he can move to the next life with no regrets. Apart of that is sharing with you the 'normal flavor' of what is important to him. Your birthday and him not getting you your present on time. Why is he worried about that? Because he knows 'the big things' are taken care of, even if you don't.
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#16
RE: Fustration! How is this favored?!
(April 9, 2016 at 5:20 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: My father (well the man who raised me, my biological father passed last year) has just been hospitalized. He had a heart valve replaced. So I called the the hospital hysterical and in tears to figure what the hell is going on. Apparently a valve in daddy's heart split and he's had a temporary cow replacement until he can afford a mechanical one in a few years. Well the crazy man gets on the phone: "Sorry your present will be late this year princess! Didn't mean to let you down." And I fussed at him and told him not worry about such a silly thing like my birthday; and the only way I'd be disappointed is if he didn't get better. "Don't worry pumpkinhead, I'm fine. I made it out just fine. I'm blessed and divinely favored." Of course what could I say was "Yes, Daddy." But I was thinking either they've doped him good, or I just don't understand anything anymore. I love my daddy so much and sometimes I just can't understand how he can think this way. It worries me. And makes sad that for all we agree on this is something we'll never eye to eye on. And all I want is for him to see 250 years old, and scold his great great great grand children. Sigh.

 Sorry I didn't see this earlier. I know what you're going through I went through the same thing with my dad and I sympathize with you it is a tough situation to deal with. I can see that you and your dad have a special relationship and that you need him like I needed my dad. I hope he is around for you for many years to come, mine was. The reality of life is that we are not promised anything, life's tough and full of surprises good and bad, no one is excluded, everyone will face adversity and good time. We have to learn to deal with the adversity and to welcome the good things. It seems your dad has a way to deal with adversity, by allowing God to help him through this hard time for him, pleas remember this is hard on him too, even if he doesn't show it, dad was the same way, dad's what to be the rock of the family even in their times of pain and fear. It seems to me you trust your dad and I hope you will listen to him, he could very well be right you know, this is all I'm going to say about his faith in God to you. The best thing you can do for him at this time is stay strong or at least pretend to so that he can concentrate on getting better and make the medical decisions he needs to. I know this will probably upset you but I think your dad would be happy about it, I'm going to pray for you and your dad, I do this because it's the best way I know to help those I can't be in direct contact with and even those I pray for. Please be patient, your dad at times might not seem the dad you have known, heart problems also affect a persons mental state at times, nothing serious but sometimes he might not seem to be quite the same, give him time and all your love.

GC

PS Happy belated Birthday.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#17
RE: Fustration! How is this favored?!
(April 13, 2016 at 12:33 am)Godschild Wrote:
(April 9, 2016 at 5:20 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: My father (well the man who raised me, my biological father passed last year) has just been hospitalized. He had a heart valve replaced. So I called the the hospital hysterical and in tears to figure what the hell is going on. Apparently a valve in daddy's heart split and he's had a temporary cow replacement until he can afford a mechanical one in a few years. Well the crazy man gets on the phone: "Sorry your present will be late this year princess! Didn't mean to let you down." And I fussed at him and told him not worry about such a silly thing like my birthday; and the only way I'd be disappointed is if he didn't get better. "Don't worry pumpkinhead, I'm fine. I made it out just fine. I'm blessed and divinely favored." Of course what could I say was "Yes, Daddy." But I was thinking either they've doped him good, or I just don't understand anything anymore. I love my daddy so much and sometimes I just can't understand how he can think this way. It worries me. And makes sad that for all we agree on this is something we'll never eye to eye on. And all I want is for him to see 250 years old, and scold his great great great grand children. Sigh.

 Sorry I didn't see this earlier. I know what you're going through I went through the same thing with my dad and I sympathize with you it is a tough situation to deal with. I can see that you and your dad have a special relationship and that you need him like I needed my dad. I hope he is around for you for many years to come, mine was. The reality of life is that we are not promised anything, life's tough and full of surprises good and bad, no one is excluded, everyone will face adversity and good time. We have to learn to deal with the adversity and to welcome the good things. It seems your dad has a way to deal with adversity, by allowing God to help him through this hard time for him, pleas remember this is hard on him too, even if he doesn't show it, dad was the same way, dad's what to be the rock of the family even in their times of pain and fear. It seems to me you trust your dad and I hope you will listen to him, he could very well be right you know, this is all I'm going to say about his faith in God to you. The best thing you can do for him at this time is stay strong or at least pretend to so that he can concentrate on getting better and make the medical decisions he needs to. I know this will probably upset you but I think your dad would be happy about it, I'm going to pray for you and your dad, I do this because it's the best way I know to help those I can't be in direct contact with and even those I pray for. Please be patient, your dad at times might not seem the dad you have known, heart problems also affect a persons mental state at times, nothing serious but sometimes he might not seem to be quite the same, give him time and all your love.

GC

PS Happy belated Birthday.

Thanks sweetie.
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#18
RE: Fustration! How is this favored?!
I have good news! They're getting back together! They're getting back together! Yay oh yay! My parents are moving back in with each other! Squee!!
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#19
RE: Fustration! How is this favored?!
Happy birthday! And I'm glad to hear your dad pulled through Smile

Great news that they're getting back together!

I understand. I don't know how anyone can reconcile religious beliefs with reality.
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#20
RE: Fustration! How is this favored?!
(April 13, 2016 at 3:23 am)robvalue Wrote: Happy birthday! And I'm glad to hear your dad pulled through Smile

Great news that they're getting back together!

I understand. I don't know how anyone can reconcile religious beliefs with reality.

I know I'm supposed to be a real grownup but I will do the happy dance! Yay! I get my daddy!
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