Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: April 19, 2024, 3:46 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
God, Christianity, Control, & Fear (continued)
#1
God, Christianity, Control, & Fear (continued)
.....
"If you've got a religious belief that withers in the face of observations of the natural world, you ought to rethink your beliefs — rethinking the world isn't an option" - P.Z. Myers
Reply
#2
RE: God, Christianity, Control, & Fear (continued)
(July 28, 2010 at 3:45 pm)ShnogTrip Wrote: God could've just simply not created the magical tree to begin with. An all knowing God would've foreseen and could've prevented the very fall of humankind and the punishment afterwards. He could've prevented Jesus from having to be beaten and nailed to a cross. He could've prevented all of the suffering and all of the people that will go to hell for something that God could've prevented in the first place.

That's not even the half of it. God apparently created eden to be free of many of the evils that would later enrap the world, but he put two things in the garden - the snake (which was apparently a significant source of corruption, if nothing else) and the tree, which was the centerfold of his fantastic garden, which eve and adam were apparently to never touch.

Basically, if god were a zookeeper, he had all the wisdom of putting the lions in the petting zoo and letting the two humans romp around the petting zoo freely. It's purely assinine, but the god of the old testiment is anything but wise.

(July 28, 2010 at 3:45 pm)ShnogTrip Wrote: Religions were created to help comfort us with our fear of death and the unknown. Religions have been and continue to be used to easily explain what we don't understand. While you're preaching about how your God is the one true God, another guy in the world is preaching about how his God is the one true God. What can we gather from that? That no one knows the "truth". People need to stop pretending that they do.

You know, the more I think about it, the less I think most modern religions were created to pacify fear more than to allow a select group of individuals to control a massive ignorant population. This appears more and more true the further you go back in time.
The only faiths I think seem to actually be there to explain the things that science can't and pacify the fear of death are the more ancient religions that christians believe to be pagan faiths - like the kind of spirituality that prevades native american society and the more ancient religions of the bygone world.
The ones out here now seem to be to be little different than the kind of control and parasitism that scientology has on its followers. Even if it isnt' that way now, it would explain some of the things the churches have done in the past.

(July 28, 2010 at 3:45 pm)ShnogTrip Wrote: People are willing to believe and follow anything that makes them feel better about life and death, even Christianity. Accept that people have been controlled by Christianity, and continue to be controlled by it. Accept that people are scared into following the bible through the fear of death, the devil character, and hell. Accept that some people don't like to take responsibility for their own actions, so they use the devil as an excuse. Accept that people blamed anything they didn't understand on God or Satan because we were ignorant at the time. Accept that we are still ignorant, which is made evident by the multitude of people that still believe in the outdated nonsense of the bible. Accept that the bible has been messed with, retranslated numerous times, and continues to be interpreted in hundreds of different ways. Why anyone would have any faith in it whatsoever is beyond me. Accept that we don't know.

If you can't accept any of that, and can't even question Christianity and its flawed book, then you aren't putting your brain to good use. You will continue to be controlled and live your life in fear.

You'd be amazed at how moral people can be when they think their ideas are backed by the literal word of god. Now think about how 'moral' god was in the old testiment toward women, gays, the first-born, and any number of other examples. Whatever stops that person would have against justifying anything is going to go out the window and only terrible things can follow.
Reply
#3
RE: God, Christianity, Control, & Fear (continued)
TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:Basically, if god were a zookeeper, he had all the wisdom of putting the lions in the petting zoo and letting the two humans romp around the petting zoo freely. It's purely assinine, but the god of the old testiment is anything but wise.

That's a good analogy and I completely agree.
"If you've got a religious belief that withers in the face of observations of the natural world, you ought to rethink your beliefs — rethinking the world isn't an option" - P.Z. Myers
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  First Council of Nicaea: when Christianity was deformed and Jesus named son of God. WinterHold 50 4005 September 19, 2021 at 12:13 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Do my parents fear that I'll leave the faith? Der/die AtheistIn 120 22889 January 14, 2018 at 2:55 am
Last Post: Abaddon_ire
  Ex-Christians: How do you lose your fear of hell? KiwiNFLFan 29 5638 November 20, 2017 at 2:07 pm
Last Post: purplepurpose
  Irational fear of hell still naggs me from time to time Arsoo 103 27683 November 9, 2017 at 1:53 pm
Last Post: downbeatplumb
  Orthodox Christianity is Best Christianity! Annoyingbutnicetheist 30 6774 January 26, 2016 at 10:44 pm
Last Post: ignoramus
  Why Christianity violates the unity of God. Mystic 18 2704 September 11, 2015 at 6:13 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Hostage to fear Spacetime 232 29287 July 28, 2015 at 6:24 am
Last Post: robvalue
  Fear your mind for it is hell urlawyer 17 3750 April 23, 2015 at 7:09 am
Last Post: robvalue
  In Christianity, Does Jesus' Soul Have Anything To Do With Why Jesus Is God? JesusIsGod7 18 7201 October 7, 2014 at 12:58 pm
Last Post: JesusHChrist
  Gay in not only a choice, but a mind control influence in children. Zidneya 12 3149 July 7, 2014 at 9:00 pm
Last Post: Dystopia



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)