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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 6, 2016 at 3:03 am
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(May 5, 2016 at 11:35 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (May 5, 2016 at 11:25 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: And the corollary, as has been pointed out by many others, is that they CAN all be wrong.
Well from what I gather OP is not so much interested in process how Earth started but rather why cling to any explanation. Why choose scientific explanation rather then some religious and that is again question that could be rephrased as "What is reality?" which is again the question that has been the core of the something like every other topic started by religious people on the forum.
And like I said before to those people, read "Magic of reality" by R. Dawkins.
Maybe I should have said that evolution and natural selection helps people see the world more clearly and by being cornerstone of biology and medicine it actually heals people.
And theories about how Solar system got formed got us stuff like nuclear energy which in turn powers our computers as we write this. As well as laws of gravity, that also help us understand how Solar system got formed, enable us to have space program which equals to communication satellites...
Compared to religion that yields nothing. Not only that religion can't heal you, can't make you communicate better to other people and have better life overall it goes the opposite way. As members of this forum could witness is that religious people frequently prevent their kids for getting medication, because these medications come from understanding the world that functions without any god. That's clearly because religion is not funded in reality unlike science.
But this is the thing that I think religious people think that evolution was "created" to be a counterpart to religious myths, while the truth is that evolution inadvertently debunked almost all religions. As is the case with archaeology, meteorology, geology, history...
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 6, 2016 at 3:21 am
(May 6, 2016 at 3:03 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Compared to religion that yields nothing.
Respectfully, I must disagree with that assertion:
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 6, 2016 at 4:09 am
(May 6, 2016 at 3:21 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (May 6, 2016 at 3:03 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Compared to religion that yields nothing.
Respectfully, I must disagree with that assertion:
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 6, 2016 at 5:10 am
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(May 6, 2016 at 2:45 am)robvalue Wrote: He never even managed to tell me what "a god". It's kind of important. I can't have an opinion about it until you tell me what the hell you're even talking about.
No on can tell me what it is. Clearly theists don't spend a lot of time thinking about this.
I know I'm cynical, but these days I feel that believing in God just means doing and acting the way you really want rather than being PC.
It's extremely easy when there's a respected book that can be manipulated to mean anything you desire.
Bigots, slave owners, wife beaters, wife cheaters, killers, rapists, gay haters, step right up! Here's your copy Sir!
Remember, it's not you (*wink*), you're just being a good Christian and following the good book...
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 6, 2016 at 6:12 am
(May 5, 2016 at 8:38 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Little Rik, you're even more repetitive than I am.
If some of you guys wouldn't be repetitive with your dogmas i wouldn't have to be repetitive by
denounce them.
I suppose it all boil down to the fact that i am allergic to dogmas.
When i hear them a itch take over in my mind so i have no choice but to rebut them.
I suggest you to read Rob post in which i was referring to to see the number of unproven and
guessing there are first.
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 6, 2016 at 6:59 am
Little Rik Wrote:I suppose it all boil down to the fact that i am allergic to dogmas.
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 6, 2016 at 7:18 am
fuck! That's good enough to be someone's signature... (As a warning to others)
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 6, 2016 at 7:42 am
And just like that, rik's dogma gets run over by karma.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 6, 2016 at 7:54 am
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 6, 2016 at 9:12 am
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