Hillary or Trump: Which of These is the Lesser of Two Evils?

[Minimalist]

[Rhondazvous]

Eating a shit sandwich when I'm not hungry... makes perfect sense... yeah

Life is a lot like a shit sandwich, in fact:  The more bread you have, the less hit you have to eat.

Boru

Will that be sour dough bread with sharp cheddar cheese and honey mustard sauce? Foot long or six inches?

[SteelCurtain]

I'm really tired of this "lesser of evils" non-sense. Most of you spouting this crap are speaking emotionally, not logically. It's fine if you don't like Hillary but it's idiotic to make like there's little difference between her and Trump. The differences are massive.

1. SCOTUS and Circuit Judge Appointments: This by itself is huge. These are lifetime appointments; the judges will be affecting policy long after the President who appointed them is gone. Hillary is going to appoint judges like Ruth Ginsberg. I don't think anyone has any idea of the type of judge Trump would appoint. You want to risk 3 or 4 more like Sam Alito?

The next President is going to determine the makeup of the SCOTUS for decades. This will impact separation of church and state, LGBT rights, women's rights, health care, and money in politics to just name a few. If this by itself doesn't motivate you to vote for Hillary then you are a damn fool.

2. Foreign Policy: Like Bill Clinton was, Hillary is highly respected overseas. Just as world leaders didn't give a shit about Monica Lewinski, they don't much care about Benghazi or private e-mail servers either. On the other hand, they have already come out and openly stated that they have no respect for Trump and would distance themselves from the US if he is elected. The UK - our closest ally - has gone so far as to consider banning him from entering their country. This isn't the lesser of evils, folks. This is night and day.

3. Economy: Hillary is in favor of raising the minimum wage to $12.50/hour. That would be the biggest bump in history. Trump on the other hand is a plutocrat and bad businessman. He's done nothing with the fortune he inherited but fail in one business venture after another. He's declared bankruptcy 3 times. The best thing that can be said for him is that he's managed to break even so as to not to go broke. Economic experts have said some of his ideas on dealing with the national debt would literally destroy the economy.

And this is just for starters. In the areas of race relations, environmental policy and scientific literacy just to name a few, it's night and day between the two candidates. There is no contest at all.

This. Totally this. Every fucking bit of this. However much you hate Hillary (and I dislike her as a politician, I don't hate her), if you think that risking Donald Trump making lifetime nominations to the supreme court is worth staying home, you are just as much of an idiot as Trump is.

If you think diplomacy is the same as running a business, you are just as bad as Trump. If you think we can just cancel our debt like bankruptcy, you are at the precipice of witnessing something grand in scale.

The biggest thing to remember is that the numbers count, too. Even if you live in a thoroughly blue state, the numbers count in the local elections. Seeing a clearer picture of how much of the nation votes against authoritarian conservative policies at every level, even when it is a shoo-in win for either side, counts. Also, the real change happens in the legislative races, both state and national. You stay home, you miss those votes as well. Those are arguably more important. But if you are a liberal, most of Hillary's policies match your own. She's just a shit human being.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

[SteelCurtain]

No, he's the racist asshole you want. Because he is legitimizing your racism.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

No, he's the racist asshole you want. Because he is legitimizing your racism.

All Presidents have been racists.  If Trump can get rid of the illegals he will be the best racist since Eisenhower.

[Edwardo Piet]

I hate Pepsi.

Blasphemy.

Of course, Mini blaspheming is rather unsurprising

[LadyForCamus]

I, drunk.

[SteelCurtain]

Did you get it at the Genius Bar?

[TheRealJoeFish]

I say with extreme confidence that Hillary Clinton is the lesser of the two evils.

I agree. However, the real action will be in the down-ticket congressional elections. Clinton winning will do us little good if it results in four more years of GOP obstruction and fuckery at every turn. So I say to all who are thinking of staying home on election day because you don't care for either Presidential choice, not voting in your state's congressional elections is a tacit endorsement of the status quo.

This is extremely true.  I'm not going to the polls just hoping to make sure it's Clinton>Trump; we Pennsylvanians have the opportunity to flip one of the 100 Senate seats from Red (Toomey) to Blue (McGinty) this November.  That's an issue of some importance as well.