What does this have to do with god, anyway? Unfortunate things have happened, discussing gods will not prevent this from happening again.
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 Leader of the gang of jerkoffs(tm)  Religious Views: L'Uomo verrà portato dalla sua creazione  (June 1, 2016 at 5:05 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: The point, CL, is obvious ineffectiveness of thanking a god that clearly does absolutely nothing during truly tragic events worldwide, yet this same god decides on a whim that this one boy deserves saving over the lives of thousands and millions of others? That is not a god. That is just simple minded douches thanking a being they created and wished was real, merely keeping him alive through utter reckless apologetic arguments when confronted with the reality that god does not exist. I know what yall's point is. I still don't think it makes someone a douche to be grateful to a God they believe in. If you do, then you think nearly all of us people of faith are douches. Giving thanks and praise to God is extremely common and a big part of our faith. So if you think she was a douche for thanking God just be aware that you're also thinking almost all of us are douches as well. That's all.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh (June 1, 2016 at 5:12 pm)LastPoet Wrote: What does this have to do with god, anyway? Unfortunate things have happened, discussing gods will not prevent this from happening again. I agree with you. Apparently the woman is a douche because she gave thanks to God in her statements. That's how God got dragged into it.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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Once again, I need to clarify that I am not making a total character judgement of this person.
I am making a judgement of this action.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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I can't be arsed to go through all the pages of the thread to see if this has already been raised, but how did a little kid end up on the other side of the fence in the first place?
It's more the fault of the zoo than the parents. I don't blame them for shooting the gorilla, for reasons which have already been said, but if the fence was low or insecure enough for a kid to end up on the other side of it, then it's still a fault of the zoo.
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"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable." - Maryam Namazie (June 1, 2016 at 5:14 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Once again, I need to clarify that I am not making a total character judgement of this person. "And yes, C_L, giving praise to a deity which could have prevented the whole situation with no effort if it existed makes one a douche in my eyes." Again, sorry for harping on this SC, but the back tracking is making me look like I'm imagining things and driving this pregnant woman nuts. You're killin me smalls.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh  (June 1, 2016 at 5:14 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Once again, I need to clarify that I am not making a total character judgement of this person. I don't know what it is about discussions on the internet that tends to magnify any criticism to Hitleresque proportions.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
Sorry. That's a colloquial saying, though. I'm calling her a douche, but I thought it was clear by my previous statements that I 1) don't know this person and 2) am judging this specific action.
The action makes her a douche. I don't know her well enough to make an overall character judgement.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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I don't think this discussion will get anywhere. Tragedy happens. They believe their god saved them after the tragedy happened. They thank their god, while other tragedies happen, and no saving occurs. To me that's arrogance. Simple.
And douchey, since they think it's fine that their god would save a kid and not save the animal.
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(June 1, 2016 at 5:20 pm)Alex K Wrote:(June 1, 2016 at 5:14 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Once again, I need to clarify that I am not making a total character judgement of this person. Well that's not really fair. I never magnified anything. I always called it exactly what it was - "saying the lady is a douche for giving thanks to God." I never accused anyone of calling her Hitler or of calling her anything other than what they called her.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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