Religion and Spanking

[Godscreated]

 If I had children and they broke a rule that they knew would be punished by whipping yes I would. If they did something bad and did not understand fully what they had done then we would have a discussion, just as my parents did.

GC

And what I never understood: why is it acceptable to hit a child - even to belt one - and yet if a person lays a hand one hand on a dog, it's considered animal abuse? Is there a specific reason for this?

 I have spanked my dogs for doing behavior they know is not acceptable, I'm not a bleeding heart animals right activist, but you can bet I have dogs who are very happy, love me and are well behaved. My dogs receive a great amount of care, care of all kinds, love and friendship from me.

GC

[Losty]

That's fucking disgusting GC...

[Vincent]

How forcefully have you struck those animals, I wonder?

GC, I hope you understand that dogs that have been hit are a lot more likely to turn on their owners, even if you shower them with other affections? Just for future consideration.

[SteelCurtain]

There are so many massively effective ways to train an animal that resorting to hitting them is just lazy.

[Edwardo Piet]

I very much agree.

[Jehanne]

So I was listening to a TTA podcast and while I think the forum went over this topic a few years ago I thought I'd rehash it. Spanking, right or wrong? You thoughts on spanking as a form of godly discipline? Were you spanked? Did it affect you in anyway? Thoughts in general…

I think that spankings constitute child abuse.  In Scandinavian countries, some parents have been prosecuted for doing that, and as countries go, Scandinavian countries have their act together, except, of course, when it comes to furniture.

[Jehanne]

And what I never understood: why is it acceptable to hit a child - even to belt one - and yet if a person lays a hand one hand on a dog, it's considered animal abuse? Is there a specific reason for this?

 I have spanked my dogs for doing behavior they know is not acceptable, I'm not a bleeding heart animals right activist, but you can bet I have dogs who are very happy, love me and are well behaved. My dogs receive a great amount of care, care of all kinds, love and friendship from me.

GC

This is animal abuse; I hope that you die and your dogs eat your corpse.

[Jehanne]

I think the only time I ever felt unloved or like trash was once when my parents pretended they couldn't hear me when I was asking to come out of my room after I had done something I shouldn't have. I went ballistic, and I suppose they realized that wasn't a good way to discipline since they never did it again.

Slightly off topic, when I was 5ish my mother sent me to my room under the terms that I could come out if and only if I would eat my coleslaw.
I had a really old space heater in my room which caught fire and subsequently caught the wall on fire. I screamed for help from my doorway for several minutes before my dad came (shouting up that he was bringing his belt to teach me how he felt about shouting for no reason).
When he saw the fire (which taken up the wall by now) he shouted for my mom to get everyone out and call 911.
Then he had to drag me kicking and screaming from my burning room "nooooo I don't want to eat my coleslaw just get a water hose nooooo!"
I had a few minor burns but mostly I just got really sick from breathing in so much smoke. I was never made to eat coleslaw again.
My mother found it really amusing that I would rather die than eat coleslaw. I really do hate that stuff. It's gross.

Did the fire department save your home?

[Iroscato]

And what I never understood: why is it acceptable to hit a child - even to belt one - and yet if a person lays a hand one hand on a dog, it's considered animal abuse? Is there a specific reason for this?

 I have spanked my dogs for doing behavior they know is not acceptable, I'm not a bleeding heart animals right activist, but you can bet I have dogs who are very happy, love me and are well behaved. My dogs receive a great amount of care, care of all kinds, love and friendship from me.

GC

Dogs have no concept of the consequences of actions, you fucking moron. From their point of view you're just hurting them for no reason. Please stop doing it.

[account_inactive]

Oh for fuck sake GC, stop hitting your pets.