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RE: Trump's 2nd amendment call to arms not a criminal offense?
August 10, 2016 at 7:26 pm
(August 10, 2016 at 7:02 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: (August 10, 2016 at 5:23 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Bullshit, first off he didn't get arrested, Ted Buttnugget made a similar comment about Obama "if he gets elected, I'll either be dead or in prison". He got a visit from the Secret Service too. Now the point in that visit isn't to deny free speech rights, but to let those of celebrity and those in power that their words do carry weight and it is the job of the Secret Service, not to protect the individual, but the process of the institution of government. Now, I think you confuse legal and moral here. I don't give one fuck how legal you may want to argue it. I don't give a fuck if he was joking, there are nuts in this country who would take it as a challenge. Politicians should never talk like that not even in jest, and considering the past year of his outrageous repeated demagoguery this is yet another point to make that he is unfit. A western world leader does not nor should talk like that, it not only creates division here, but can lead to very bad diplomatic relations globally. Not even Bush Jr as much as I hated him ever talked like Trump does.
I also don't think you understand that the Secret Service and FBI and CIA get thousands of threats to a sitting president and all our presidents, republican and democrat AWLAYS get threats. It is not the job of Law Enforcement to cherry pick which ones nor is there any favoritism going on when they do. Now don't you fucking sit there and tell me if Hillary had made the same "joke" about him you would find it appropriate.
Don't really know who you are replying to. Not me. I guess just having your usual conversation with yourself. I never said it was appropriate, nor anything close to that.
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RE: Trump's 2nd amendment call to arms not a criminal offense?
August 10, 2016 at 7:28 pm
can no one rid me of this turbulent priest political opponent ??
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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RE: Trump's 2nd amendment call to arms not a criminal offense?
August 10, 2016 at 7:31 pm
(August 10, 2016 at 7:02 pm)abaris Wrote: (August 10, 2016 at 4:39 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: No, because he can just say he meant that he was calling them to vote in mass, which is what he said afterwards.
But if you listened to his actual speech he said, and I think I have the exact wording here: "That would be a tragedy". Right after talking about the second amendment people taking care of matters. That doesn't sound like urging them to vote en masse. Because that, for Trump, if one is to follow his image of self, wouldn't be a tragedy.
Read the next sentence that I wrote.
You can't lecture me on context if you can't even take what I said in context.
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RE: Trump's 2nd amendment call to arms not a criminal offense?
August 10, 2016 at 7:36 pm
(August 10, 2016 at 7:31 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Read the next sentence that I wrote.
You can't lecture me on context if you can't even take what I said in context.
Yes I read it. And I wasn't explicitly replying to you but rather putting into context what he really said. You only were the one bringing up his excuse and that's why I quoted you. His reply to the accusations is a rather weak attempt at wiggling out from the stone he's under.
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RE: Trump's 2nd amendment call to arms not a criminal offense?
August 10, 2016 at 7:42 pm
(August 10, 2016 at 7:36 pm)abaris Wrote: (August 10, 2016 at 7:31 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Read the next sentence that I wrote.
You can't lecture me on context if you can't even take what I said in context.
Yes I read it. And I wasn't explicitly replying to you but rather putting into context what he really said. You only were the one bringing up his excuse and that's why I quoted you. His reply to the accusations is a rather weak attempt at wiggling out from the stone he's under. You still can't prosecute someone for an interpretation of what he said, that he denies. I believe he was joking about second amendment people shooting Hillary Clinton, that's what it sounded like to me. But if 'That's what it sounded like to me' becomes a reason to throw people in jail, I will do everything in my power to fight for freedom of speech.
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RE: Trump's 2nd amendment call to arms not a criminal offense?
August 10, 2016 at 7:56 pm
(This post was last modified: August 10, 2016 at 7:57 pm by abaris.)
(August 10, 2016 at 7:42 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I believe he was joking about second amendment people shooting Hillary Clinton, that's what it sounded like to me. But if 'That's what it sounded like to me' becomes a reason to throw people in jail, I will do everything in my power to fight for freedom of speech.
I think he knew exactly what he said and how to word it to not be subject of prosecution. And I know that there is a sufficient amount of nutters being ready to act on it. Chances of success are rather slim, since, far as I know, presidential candidates are already protected by the Secret Service. But it ties in with so many other things Trump said within the last year. Riling up the crowd using every means at his disposal. His audience loved to hear that one, judging by all the smiling and laughing faces. It's none of his business if someone actually dies trying what he insinuated. It's also none of his business if someone gets hurt in the process. That's what's making him such a despicable person.
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RE: Trump's 2nd amendment call to arms not a criminal offense?
August 11, 2016 at 11:18 am
Borowitz:
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-...gs-he-says
Quote:Trump Blasts Media for Reporting Things He Says
Quote:“I’ll say something at a rally and I look out and see all these TV cameras taking every word down,” Trump told Fox News’ Sean Hannity. “No one in politics has ever been subjected to this kind of treatment.”
“It’s unbelievable and, frankly, very unethical,” he added.
Being a republicunt requires a very flawed mind!
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RE: Trump's 2nd amendment call to arms not a criminal offense?
August 11, 2016 at 9:09 pm
(August 11, 2016 at 11:18 am)Minimalist Wrote: Borowitz:
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-...gs-he-says
Quote:Trump Blasts Media for Reporting Things He Says
Quote:“I’ll say something at a rally and I look out and see all these TV cameras taking every word down,” Trump told Fox News’ Sean Hannity. “No one in politics has ever been subjected to this kind of treatment.”
“It’s unbelievable and, frankly, very unethical,” he added.
Being a republicunt requires a very flawed mind!
Normally, yes, but he is a natural born asshole.
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