Milwalkee riots

[Athene]

[paulpablo]

Wow, goin all the way back to 2013.

Why does me talking about how I imagine id feel as a person who's a slave owner relate to my sarcasm in this thread.

I'm wasn't arguing for slavery, I was putting myself in the mind of someone who has a vast fortune based on slavery and wether or not I'd give up that lifestyle taking into account its in a time where slavery is relatively common.
Basically saying anyone on this forum put into a situation where they're raised in a different era would be likely to have a different moral outlook.

How it relates is this.

In your op you quote a guy stating:

"It's sad you know because this what happen, because they not helping the black community, like you know, the rich people they got all this money, and they not like you know tryin to give us none."

Not the best articulation, I know, but here's the thing. The Jews and the Japanese were paid reparations for the injustices that they suffered, but were not able to do the same for black people?

You guys look at it like it's a handout, but people actually put in hard labor and were paid nothing, how about paying their families for all that free labor.

Those generations had nothing to pass down to their children hence the economic inequality.

If you want to balance scales you must remove weight from one side and add to the other. Eliminating the policies that created the unbalance in the first place, simply leaves the scales unbalanced.

How would one go about doing this? I don't know, but I would focus on the major corporations that profited off of slavery.

But what does this have to do with my comment being sarcastic or not?

[Huggy Bear]

Again, you are showing ignorance, when you only talk about Jews and Japanese. What about the Irish population who were treated as slaves in the United States too? Why don't the African population ask for reparations from Saudi Arabia and the conquering arabs who took about 20 million black people as slaves? Aren't they worthy of reparations?
How about the late, great Arther Ashe, Muhammed Ali, Jessie Jackson, Martin Luther King Jr, Jessie Owens, Jack Johnson and countless others besides? The thing that links all of them together is the wanting to work hard and get to where they wanted to be in life. Life owes no-one a living, regardless of what colour your skin is, what your sexual preference is, whether you wear glasses or not. If you work hard, you get the benefits. Most of those names I mentioned would turn in their graves seeing what is happening to the younger generation today. They have everything they have ever wanted in life, more so than their ancestors had, and they still want more, which for me, is greed, plain and simple. If you are not willing to put in a days hard graft, then don't blame every man and his dog if you don't make it in life. The onus is on YOU, not the state.

*emphasis mine*

Are you stupid?

last I looked slaves did work hard, also they weren't paid anything... Giving the families of the slaves money that they are owed for unpaid labor is called restitution and is not a hand-out dummy.

[Athene]

There was nothing about that phrasing that sounded sarcastic. Seems like backpedalling to me.

I showed this video of some black people doing stupid shit then some accusation of racism starts.
So I jokingly say if it's racist that means this video represents black people as a race and I hope that isn't the case.
I don't get how someone couldn't see I'm being sarcastic, I thought it would be impossible.
That would mean I've never met a black people who could speak English well who didn't want to burn and loot buildings and how likely do you think that is?

Not unlikely at all.

Any good racist must acknowledge that there are exceptions to the rule...anomalies, if you will.

[Huggy Bear]

How it relates is this.

In your op you quote a guy stating:

"It's sad you know because this what happen, because they not helping the black community, like you know, the rich people they got all this money, and they not like you know tryin to give us none."

Not the best articulation, I know, but here's the thing. The Jews and the Japanese were paid reparations for the injustices that they suffered, but were not able to do the same for black people?

You guys look at it like it's a handout, but people actually put in hard labor and were paid nothing, how about paying their families for all that free labor.

Those generations had nothing to pass down to their children hence the economic inequality.

If you want to balance scales you must remove weight from one side and add to the other. Eliminating the policies that created the unbalance in the first place, simply leaves the scales unbalanced.

How would one go about doing this? I don't know, but I would focus on the major corporations that profited off of slavery.

But what does this have to do with my comment being sarcastic or not?

That's the thing, I don't think you were being sarcastic.

[paulpablo]

But what does this have to do with my comment being sarcastic or not?

That's the thing, I don't think you were being sarcastic.

Well what does it have to do with anything I've said? You were showing me a comment you believed exhibited my racism and I told you it was just a post where I was explaining how I'm different circumstances we might have different moral values to what we have now, even in extreme cases like owning slaves.
Then you were explaining to me the logic behind restitution for some reason but I have no idea why.

[Crossless2.0]

Any good racist must acknowledge that there are exceptions to the rule...anomalies, if you will.

Nearly every racist I've ever called out in real life has been quick to tell me about that one friend.

[RobertE]

[RobertE]

[Huggy Bear]

That's the thing, I don't think you were being sarcastic.

Well what does it have to do with anything I've said? You were showing me a comment you believed exhibited my racism and I told you it was just a post where I was explaining how I'm different circumstances we might have different moral values to what we have now, even in extreme cases like owning slaves.
Then you were explaining to me the logic behind restitution for some reason but I have no idea why.

Look, even back in those days there were white people vehemently opposed to slavery usually referred to as abolitionists. You made it very clear that YOU personally would not be among the abolitionists.

Now do you get it?