Heard about EpiPen CEO?

[Jackalope]

You got something regarding the topic of the thread, or did you just come in here to take a shot in Min's punch?

Aside from responding to T_E's double standards and responding to Min's, "Drumpfish" reference, I also said that I have no respect for Mylan because they put lining their pockets above the lives of people.

I have to say it's nice to see - at least with respect to that last part - that we have some common ground to work from.

[Jackalope]

I have said as much and you continue to ignore my point.

If your point is to give the 1% and GOP more of everything they have gotten over the past 36 years, I don't agree with that. So if we agree there is no morality or justification for that, then I don't see how blaming the government is solving anything, when it is the misuse of it by one party and one class.

I'd only blame dems politicians for allowing themselves to be controlled by the GOP narrative in that time, and the GOP gerrymandering. Being held hostage by the other party isn't the same as being the hostage taker.

So you wouldn't blame the Democratic Party for being equally complicit in the insane state of intellectual property law, which may not be the sole enabler of this atrocious corporate behavior, it is a sufficient one.

This is a bipartisan fucking problem. Your - and others - failure tonsure your own party's role in this only serves to prolong the problem.

[Minimalist]

Colbert rips the bitch a new asshole.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/colbert-...o-shkreli/

Colbert blisters Mylan CEO Heather Bresch as the ‘douchebag’ equivalent of ‘Pharma Bro’ Shkreli

Includes video.

[Brian37]

Colbert rips the bitch a new asshole.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/colbert-...o-shkreli/

Colbert blisters Mylan CEO Heather Bresch as the ‘douchebag’ equivalent of ‘Pharma Bro’ Shkreli

Includes video.

Saw that, and she deserves it and most of the drug/medical supply/insurance industry does. I really hate it when you rightfully point out an abuse, you get painted as against the private sector, which is not my issue in any case. But rather it is attitudes at the top in an overall climate. The global market private sector cannot be exterminated on a planet of 7 billion, but it certainly should be regulated better as to not be so exploitative.

I think the world's top earners use the same bullshit line religion does "it's complicated" and or "you wouldn't understand". Yet the sane on the left can point to long term data that proves that the conservative model is wrong, just like with religion, "it's complicated" doesn't change the harm and divisions we do see in it.

Economies are about gaining resources, and all life needs resources, and when those resources are monopolized to the point more fall behind, it is no different than an ecosystem where an invasive species gains a monopoly, it comes at the expense of the other life in that ecosystem, which in turn, can be harmful even to the dominate species. 


Our current system is only slightly better now, because of the ACA, but still not where we should be by any stretch. You cannot simply keep raising the cost of basics, price more people out of stability, then expect that system to remain stable, it eventually leads to the harm of even those at the top.

So when people say "it's complicated" yes, sure, but when you have competing ideas of how a healthy economy should work, if it were working like the right claims then nobody would be bitching. Life that is not stressed out doesn't go off the rails when stable.

The other falsehood, or thing that is ignored, when it comes to economic ideas, for either side, is that times change, and while what might work now, still needs adjusting over time. 

When we look at economic history we know what unhealthy risks lead to the great depression and our great recession, then the high taxes on the rich and investment after WW2 that lead to the economic boom and middle class, to what we have now our 36 year decline started by Reagan. The data is in and to cling to the GOP model is insane.

[Minimalist]

The whole country has been sold a bill of good about how fucking wonderful "privatization" is.  It is only good for the bastards who make a fortune off the misfortune of others.  What the private sector does is suck a lot of money out of the system and put it into the pockets of rich fucks.  They add no value to the product.  Be it education, prisons or health insurance.  Americans are so easily conned it scares me.

[A Theist]

Aside from responding to T_E's double standards and responding to Min's, "Drumpfish" reference, I also said that I have no respect for Mylan because they put lining their pockets above the lives of people.

I have to say it's nice to see - at least with respect to that last part - that we have some common ground to work from.

Yup. There's always common ground somewhere.

[Brian37]

The whole country has been sold a bill of good about how fucking wonderful "privatization" is.  It is only good for the bastards who make a fortune off the misfortune of others.  What the private sector does is suck a lot of money out of the system and put it into the pockets of rich fucks.  They add no value to the product.  Be it education, prisons or health insurance.  Americans are so easily conned it scares me.

I agree, but just like religion, you'll never rid the planet off it by force, the best we can do is regulate it better and educate better so more are well informed so that they don't become victims to abuse. The charge to privatize everything is a very dangerous thing.

[Brian37]

I have to say it's nice to see - at least with respect to that last part - that we have some common ground to work from.

Yup. There's always common ground somewhere.

It may shock some believers, but when we say "anti theist" we are not talking about anti human rights, merely anti bad logic. I think most here are in agreement that especially with health care, it is sick to make obscene profits off of things humans need. Health is not a luxury item.

[Minimalist]

duplicate

[Minimalist]

Redneck assholes vote for billionaire republicunts



because they have so much in common.