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RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
September 9, 2016 at 12:00 pm
(September 8, 2016 at 2:43 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (September 8, 2016 at 2:23 pm)Alex K Wrote: I've seen so many of those "post-predictions of dark energy" or particle masses, which are usually based on some vague words and piles of numerology, but without a consistent underlying theory. Do you have a prediction for the scalar to tensor ratio? Or actual math for your inflation claims? What about the quartic divergences of the standard model? Is your scheme consistent with the known properties and predictions of the Standard Model?
Yes. But I'm, late for work already and will get back to you in several hours. Thanks =)
Yeah Alex, you inconsiderate arsehole. Those burgers won't flip themselves, you know.
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RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
September 9, 2016 at 1:28 pm
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(September 9, 2016 at 10:14 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Alex K Wrote:Heh, I was talking to our weird friend Arkilogue, not you Aractus 
But I still agree with your assessment. I also believe that fine tuning is present and not a figment of the imagination. I don't buy at all the arguments just waving it away like "look at all the empty space, it's hostile, and we don't know how life could otherwise look, and there's only one universe so the concept is meaningless, etc etc.. and I'm annoyed by them. To me it's clear from the physics that by tinkering just a bit with the parameters of the universe, you get one where there are no stars in the best case, and nothing approaching higher order structures in the worst case.
And you know the parameters of the universe can be tinkered with how? Not disputing, but I thought it was as yet unknown whether the cosmological constants could have been different from what they are.
To me it doesn't matter so much whether they can actually be tinkered with - after all what would that even mean. Whether they could have been different, the meaning of that question seems similarly hard to nail down, and depending on how I answer it, I find different related questions. So I don't think that distinction matters to me a lot. The physical parameters as we observe them seem to lie not entirely at random choices but such that matter can form, chemistry can exist, there are stars that actually work.
If that's not the only way they can be set, the question is, why were we so lucky that there is a universe at all where they are set in a sweet spot where there is chemistry and stars.
If for some reason the way they are set is the *only* way they can possibly be, the question becomes - why are we so lucky that the only way the universe can be is such that there is matter, and chemistry, and stars?
Conceptually, the latter is even more problematic than the former if you ask me...
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RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
September 9, 2016 at 8:59 pm
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RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
September 9, 2016 at 10:34 pm
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(September 9, 2016 at 8:59 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: A picture is worth a thousand words....
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RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
September 9, 2016 at 10:34 pm
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(September 9, 2016 at 8:59 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: A picture is worth a thousand words....
http://s1040.photobucket.com/user/Arkilogue/profile/ God help me, the loading time on that site sucks!
No sense in making people wait for no reason...how many pictures is that? 
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Damn, you outed me before I did! Good thing I'm not that concerned about it, eh?
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RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
September 9, 2016 at 10:42 pm
See, I'm no physicist, but I'm pretty sure those aren't scientific symbols.
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RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
September 9, 2016 at 10:47 pm
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(September 9, 2016 at 10:42 pm)bennyboy Wrote: See, I'm no physicist, but I'm pretty sure those aren't scientific symbols. I'm sure you're right, as they've all already been invented. And scientific symbol is only the way the universe communicates....
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RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
September 10, 2016 at 12:09 am
(September 9, 2016 at 10:47 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (September 9, 2016 at 10:42 pm)bennyboy Wrote: See, I'm no physicist, but I'm pretty sure those aren't scientific symbols. I'm sure you're right, as they've all already been invented. And scientific symbol is only the way the universe communicates....
Holy, shit, this is awesome. It's like Little Rik but it knows English! 
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RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
September 10, 2016 at 1:11 am
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RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
September 10, 2016 at 1:25 am
Got it -
Universe=Menorah*Funny circles+7
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