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Back From Mass:
August 22, 2010 at 2:21 pm
A friend took me to Mass today. I went because it helps me to remain atheist to go to church once in a while. There is no greater deterrent to faith than to go to church.
It was disturbing, as I expected.
First, I could not get past the hundreds of thousands of people who have been murdered by Catholics, not to mention those who have been sexually abused and women who have been forced to remain in hellish marriages for some weird reason. The Anglicans are no better. At least the Mennonites can honestly say they have shed no blood aside from one bloody mess in the 1500's. There are actually Atheist Mennonites who are there only for social justice, a worthy cause.
Second, it was like "Another Brick In The Wall" part II. The video. How can so many people gather in this mindless activity? We are DOOMED. There is something terrible wrong with us as a race that that kind of activity is something humans need. It reminds me of a dog we had that had what appeared to be Tourettes. He would gnaw one place on his hinder over and over. There was no reason, but he just needed it. Like animals that do weird things like swim in circles over and over..........what makes humans need religion?!
Third, it seemed to be such a waste of time.
Whew- I really needed to go because I was not personally softening, but I was starting the ol' line, "Well, if it helps the human condition........"
But it does not help it. It hinders science and alters morality and brings much more suffering than peace.
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RE: Back From Mass:
August 22, 2010 at 2:29 pm
(This post was last modified: August 22, 2010 at 2:29 pm by Minimalist.)
I've never seen how having self-important assholes telling themselves how fucking "holy" they are has ever helped the human "condition."
Of course, that might just be me.
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RE: Back From Mass:
August 22, 2010 at 5:54 pm
(August 22, 2010 at 2:21 pm)RachelSkates Wrote: ...it helps me to remain atheist to go to church once in a while. There is no greater deterrent to faith than to go to church.
How true!
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RE: Back From Mass:
August 23, 2010 at 6:14 pm
It's a waste of time, it's a futile exercise that does nothing but to serve the ego and give false hope.
"God is dead" - Friedrich Nietzsche
"Faith is what you have in things that DON'T exist. - Homer J. Simpson
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RE: Back From Mass:
August 23, 2010 at 6:42 pm
I've been to a few services, it's so dehumanizing, all that subservience and self-worth suicide... it's rather depressing that these people think they have no worth of their own and require sky daddy to feel good about themselves, harping on about how weak they are...
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RE: Back From Mass:
August 24, 2010 at 11:24 pm
(August 23, 2010 at 6:42 pm)theVOID Wrote: I've been to a few services, it's so dehumanizing, all that subservience and self-worth suicide...
Well that's only because you haven't attended the mass of Joel Osteen and purchased his guide to salvation! This is the problem with religion!
Just call me doc! im not a doctor though..
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RE: Back From Mass:
August 25, 2010 at 1:42 am
Just let them be. They'll soon find out that what they do is basically time wasted on false hopes and they will also find out that they lost a large time of life doing those things.
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RE: Back From Mass:
August 25, 2010 at 12:15 pm
(August 24, 2010 at 11:24 pm)DR7164 Wrote: (August 23, 2010 at 6:42 pm)theVOID Wrote: I've been to a few services, it's so dehumanizing, all that subservience and self-worth suicide...
Well that's only because you haven't attended the mass of Joel Osteen and purchased his guide to salvation! This is the problem with religion!
Oh My Dog.......I just ate and now feel strangely nauseated.
Seven steps? So all those people in hell, all those who beheaded one another, all those poor sad souls on the street in the grip of vice, the poor, the people in devastated lands, the people who have had houses foreclosed and bank accounts ripped asunder......and they were just SEVEN STEPS away from knowing the truth?!!!!!!!
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RE: Back From Mass:
August 25, 2010 at 2:23 pm
(August 25, 2010 at 12:15 pm)RachelSkates Wrote: Seven steps? So all those people in hell, all those who beheaded one another, all those poor sad souls on the street in the grip of vice, the poor, the people in devastated lands, the people who have had houses foreclosed and bank accounts ripped asunder......and they were just SEVEN STEPS away from knowing the truth?!!!!!!!
1. Start thinking for yourself
2. Stop watching Fox Noise
3. Stop electing Republicans
4. Stop thinking tax cuts for the rich will solve all your problems
5. Start electing sane capable people to office
6. Take responsibility instead of praying for what you want
7. Avoid going to any kind of church
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RE: Back From Mass:
August 25, 2010 at 2:47 pm
I remember as a Boy Scout I had to go to church with my troop, a southern babtist community.....Needless to say I quit after a couple weeks of that, but it was enlightening to me. Every sermon they would ask for everyone to close their eyes, and have the saved raise their hand. Then all the unsaved were asked to raise their hand, and keep them up if they wanted to be saved....well I put my hand up when they asked who was unsaved, and down when they asked who wanted to be saved. Needless to say the daggers this minister threw my way the rest of the service were merciless, and the pressure to just give in was high. I was only ten, but it disturbed me how much of an influence "peer" pressure can have in deciding to accept a religion. It's a hard thing to fight sometimes
My religion is the understanding of my world. My god is the energy that underlies it all. My worship is my constant endeavor to unravel the mysteries of my religion.
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