I enjoy the idea of eating animal meat. I do not enjoy the idea of eating human meat.
There's the 'moral distinction'.
There's the 'moral distinction'.
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Atheism and vegetarianism
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The method in which they are killed is important also IMO. I in no way mean based on the yuck factor, I mean based on how much suffering the method of killing entails.
 (August 23, 2010 at 5:08 am)lrh9 Wrote: I enjoy the idea of eating animal meat. I do not enjoy the idea of eating human meat. That's not a moral distinction. You have no way of criticising a cannibal, if that's your only defence for eating meat. Maybe you're okay with cannibalism, even if you personally dislike the idea... but I doubt it.
'We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.' H.L. Mencken
'False religion' is the ultimate tautology. 'It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.' Mark Twain 'I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.' Abraham Lincoln
It is a moral distinction if he's a personal ethical egoist. From Wiki: "[...]a personal ethical egoist would hold that he or she should act in his or her own self-interest, but would make no claims about what anyone else ought to do".
(August 23, 2010 at 5:17 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: It is a moral distinction if he's a personal ethical egoist. From Wiki: "[...]a personal ethical egoist would hold that he or she should act in his or her own self-interest, but would make no claims about what anyone else ought to do". Agreed, but he still couldn't criticise cannibals who wanted to eat some liver with fava beans and a nice chianti.
'We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.' H.L. Mencken
'False religion' is the ultimate tautology. 'It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.' Mark Twain 'I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.' Abraham Lincoln  (August 23, 2010 at 5:22 am)The Omnissiunt One Wrote:(August 23, 2010 at 5:17 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: It is a moral distinction if he's a personal ethical egoist. From Wiki: "[...]a personal ethical egoist would hold that he or she should act in his or her own self-interest, but would make no claims about what anyone else ought to do". I could if my self interest included keeping a cannibal from eating me and my kin. 
I'm a carnivore, i'd be screwed eating just fruit and veg.
I think no link between atheism and food choice. There could be a link between empathy and food choice, but not between empathy and atheism... i'm sure there have been plenty of sadistic bastards who were atheists.
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RE: Atheism and vegetarianism
August 23, 2010 at 5:28 am
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(August 23, 2010 at 5:24 am)lrh9 Wrote: I could if my self interest included keeping a cannibal from eating me and my kin. Of course, but that's not really moral criticism. More just wielding a large stick/gun  (August 23, 2010 at 5:24 am)Loki_999 Wrote: I'm a carnivore, i'd be screwed eating just fruit and veg. Eating just fruit and veg is veganism, not vegetarianism (actually, vegans eat nuts and stuff too, so not even that). Vegetarianism isn't very restrictive, diet-wise. You can still eat most desserts, and there are some good meat substitutes, like tofu and Quorn (though most veggie sausages I've had aren't that great). As for my theory about the link between non-belief and vegetarianism, I was just speaking from personal experience, really. Two vegetarians I've known were agnostic (in the popular sense) and the only vegan I've known is a militant atheist. It's not a very large sample, I know.
'We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.' H.L. Mencken
'False religion' is the ultimate tautology. 'It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.' Mark Twain 'I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.' Abraham Lincoln RE: Atheism and vegetarianism
August 23, 2010 at 5:33 am
(This post was last modified: August 23, 2010 at 5:36 am by lrh9.)
(August 23, 2010 at 5:28 am)The Omnissiunt One Wrote:(August 23, 2010 at 5:24 am)lrh9 Wrote: I could if my self interest included keeping a cannibal from eating me and my kin. C'est la vie. (August 23, 2010 at 5:17 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: It is a moral distinction if he's a personal ethical egoist. From Wiki: "[...]a personal ethical egoist would hold that he or she should act in his or her own self-interest, but would make no claims about what anyone else ought to do". According to Wikipedia, I'm not an ethical egoist. An ethical egoist posits that he 'should' act in his own self-interest. I'm a psychological egoist. I posit that people are only capable of acting in their own self interest. That makes the concept of 'should' moot. |
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