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The Peacemaking Thread
#21
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The way I make peace these days is to remember that almost everyone thinks differently about almost everything and that, whether wrong or right, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Once I've got that mindset in place I go into it unplanned with the realisation that peace is not always achievable and that pushing your desired outcome can quite easily make things worse.
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#22
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I like the Non-Aggression Principle: Aggression is inherently illegitimate.
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#23
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https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Principle_of_non-aggression
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#24
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Aggression is illegitimate? Sounds a little like how only dishonest/unacknowledged hatred leads to violence:

Alan Watts Wrote:Hatred does not necessarily lead to violence. It is unacknowledged hatred that leads to violence! Honest hatred can be expressed in much simpler ways

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Alan Watts Wrote:There are no wrong feelings.

There may be wrong actions in the sense of actions contrary to the rules of human communication. But the way you feel towards other people: loving, hating, et cetera, et cetera; there aren’t any wrong feelings.

And so, to try and force one’s feelings to be other than what they are is absurd. And furthermore: dishonest.

But you see: the idea that there are no wrong feelings is an immensely threatening one to people who are afraid to feel.

This is one of the peculiar problems of our culture: we are terrified of our feelings. We think that if we give them any scope and if we don’t immediately beat them down, they will lead us down into all kinds of chaotic and destructive actions.

But if, for a change, we would allow our feelings and look upon their comings and goings as something as beautiful and necessary as changes in the weather, the going of night and day and the four seasons, we would be at peace with ourselves.

What is so problematic for Western man is not so much his struggles with other people and their needs and problems as his struggle with his own feelings. With what he will allow himself to feel and what he won’t allow himself to feel. He is ashamed to feel really profoundly sad, so much so that he could cry. It is not manly to cry.

He is afraid to loathe somebody, because you’re not supposed to hate people. He is ashamed to be so overcome with the beauty of something, that he goes out of his mind over this beauty. Because all that kind of thing is ‘not being in control, old boy‘; not having your hands on the wheel.

I think this is the most releasing thing that anybody can possibly understand. That your inner feeling is never wrong. What you feel is never wrong – it may not be a right guide as to what you should do, but it is right that you should have the feeling of hating, or of being sad, or of being terrified. When a person comes to himself he comes to be one with his own feeling, and that is the only way to be in a position of controlling it.

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#25
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Alastair Hams post regarding Alan Watts made me think of Nietzsche. We must read Nietsche. If only to learn how the Abrahamic religions have so destroyed our desires and skills to live life for life's sake. Death cults. Not to be ashamed of emotion and passion and encourage these in others. For peace we must encourage life.
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#26
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I look at each feeling individually, and decide if it's something I want to invest in, or not. I allow them to happen, but I don't allow them to rule me, insofar as that's possible.

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#27
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(September 27, 2016 at 1:54 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: Hello everyone.  I'm curious how others constructively resolve conflict or bring peace to situations in their own way. There are so many ways to effectively handle different conflicts; ways which I probably would not have thought of.  Hence, the purpose of this thread is for AF members to share and post any and all peacemaking/conflict resolution techniques, ideas, books, communication skills (etc).  Perhaps pooling our collective peacemaking knowledge could help AF members (myself included of courseSmile) and anyone else engage conflict more constructively. 

Thanks and live long and prosper AF members and anyone else.

Make the consequences for non-peaceful resolution too terrible to consider. If you want peace, prepare for war.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#28
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(September 28, 2016 at 4:15 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I allow them to happen, but I don't allow them to rule me, insofar as that's possible.

Which often times is impossible. I think your post already implies that.
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#29
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(September 28, 2016 at 4:18 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(September 27, 2016 at 1:54 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: Hello everyone.  I'm curious how others constructively resolve conflict or bring peace to situations in their own way. There are so many ways to effectively handle different conflicts; ways which I probably would not have thought of.  Hence, the purpose of this thread is for AF members to share and post any and all peacemaking/conflict resolution techniques, ideas, books, communication skills (etc).  Perhaps pooling our collective peacemaking knowledge could help AF members (myself included of courseSmile) and anyone else engage conflict more constructively. 

Thanks and live long and prosper AF members and anyone else.

Make the consequences for non-peaceful resolution too terrible to consider.  If you want peace, prepare for war.

George Carlin Wrote:Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity

Or, to be less flippant:

Bertrand Russell Wrote:Love is wise, hatred is foolish. In this world which is getting more and more closely interconnected, we have to learn to tolerate each other, we have to learn to put up with the fact that some people say things that we don’t like. We can only live together in that way — and if we are to live together and not die together, we must learn a kind of charity and a kind of tolerance, which is absolutely vital to the continuation of human life on this planet.

If we fight war with war we're only going to destroy the world faster... and more brutally.
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#30
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(September 28, 2016 at 7:00 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:
George Carlin Wrote:Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity

Or, to be less flippant:

Oh, I like flippant. That's what many of us had on our clothing and bags in the early 80ies. The days of the peace movement and after the rather violent days of the late 60ies and 70ies. The only differenceb being, we rote "fucking" not "screwing".
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