Wikileaks publishes Podesta emails

[Minimalist]

To be clear, this was a town hall event in Orangeburg, South Carolina, and not the Town Hall Debate between the two candidates.

So a presidential candidate may have known a question to a local event not involving the other candidate. Color me outraged.

There you go using facts on Drumpfucks again.  That's not fair.  The Whiny Little Bitches will complain.

[SteelCurtain]

I believe the technicalities were discussed in the videos I cited the framing of the question was the same.

Cenk has put out a lot of anti Trump videos so he's hardly helping Trump. He gets attacked from all sides for being biased.

Again, even if it were 100% true, we're still talking about a town hall event that had nothing to do with the other candidate. Cenk never clarifies which event we're talking about, and when I first listened to it and your characterization of it, it seemed like we were talking about Clinton having access to questions from the second presidential debate early, which is clearly not the case.

Now we find out Hilary saw the Town Hall questions before the Town Hall event. She got to see the questions before the event actually took place whereas her opponents didn't. The extent to which the media is working for Hilary is shocking. Donna Brazile used to work for CNN and she's been using that to her advantage.

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There were no opponents. This was a campaign stop almost a full year ago (November) which did not include any of the other candidates.

Also, I know of no other industry or sphere where using one's professional contacts is characterized as some sort of capital offense. This is evidence of the incredible lack of anything real in the Podesta emails. HRC got a question early at a campaign stop in November of 2015. Jail the bitch, I guess.

[Alex K]

Wow she knew the questions or at least some of them at some campaign event beforehand? That clearly a very important issue...not

[ReptilianPeon]

Blame Cenk and Jordan. I wasn't made aware of it. They could have been clearer.

If Chelsea Manning and Jeffrey Sterling get jail than so should Hilary. What she did was worse. Chelsea Manning is a whistle-blower who should not be in jail. It's because Hilary is part of the elite class so she slithers away without jail. The Clintons know all the right people so they are able to escape jail.


There are very few things I agree with Donald Trump on. So asserting that I am a supporter of the man displays a frightening ignorance because you can go back and look at my post and you will not find any Fascist sentiments. The term "Hilary Bots" is intended to be hyperbolic but I'm starting to think such people really are programmed.

[SteelCurtain]

Blame Cenk and Jordan. I wasn't made aware of it. They could have been clearer.

What? No, dickwad, I blame you. You presented this information without taking the 10 mins it took me to look up the email and figure out the context of what was going on. If you haven't figured out yet that YouTube is not a great place to get information, I'm not going to blame the providers of said information for your naivete or ignorance.

If Chelsea Manning and Jeffrey Sterling get jail than so should Hilary. What she did was worse. Chelsea Manning is a whistle-blower who should not be in jail. It's because Hilary is part of the elite class so she slithers away without jail. The Clintons know all the right people so they are able to escape jail.

What does Chelsea Manning or Jeffrey Sterling have to do with anything? Do you not hear yourself? Jesus.

I agree that Manning shouldn't have gotten a 35 year jail sentence. She did, however, release the names and identities of informants and undercover agents in the field. She didn't curate the documents she took. I am all for whistleblowing, but if you just data dump, there will and should be consequences.

Sterling did the same. Curated information is still whistleblowing. You don't have to release all of the information you have.

There are very few things I agree with Donald Trump on. So asserting that I am a supporter of the man displays a frightening ignorance because you can go back and look at my post and you will not find any Fascist sentiments. The term "Hilary Bots" is intended to be hyperbolic but I'm starting to think such people really are programmed.

I am going to assume you're talking to Min here.

As for me, I have a healthy level of skepticism and appreciation for nuance that you seem to be completely devoid of. I have never been in love with Hillary Clinton. She isn't perfect. But my country has two legitimate options for our next president. It's either her or Donald Trump. I will do anything in my power to combat unnecessary and erroneous bullshit peddled by idiots who just hate the woman because they have been whipped up by the same propaganda machine you say you hate so much. Because I see in Donald Trump a legitimate threat to democracy. The man got up on a debate stage on Sunday night and threatened to jail his political rival. That's African dictator shit. The FBI and the Justice Department, not to mention eleventy billion congressional panels convened solely to convict the woman have not found enough evidence of wrongdoing to prosecute her. If you think the entire Republican machine that exists in this country solely to de-legitimize their political opponents was somehow completely undone by Hillary's political influence, you're even dumber than you portray yourself here.

[ReptilianPeon]

Other people don't get the same service as Hilary on CNN. Did Gary Johnson and Jill Stein get the same treatment before their town hall events? Pretty sure they didn't get information leaked in advance of the town hall because they don't have the same access to insiders that Hilary does. That's why I believe CNN is being biased.

Edit: So to clarify: when I said her opponents I meant the other town hall events.

They actually showed the e-mail on the video. Hilary gets special treatment by CNN because she has the right connections. The media is being manipulated by Democrats, we know that from the leaks about the Democratic primaries.

Obama has jailed more whistle-blowers than ever before. He hates the truth coming out. Why should people highlighting wrong doing be jailed?

[SteelCurtain]

Dude, first off, in order for something to be "leaked," it has to be classified in the first place. This was a town hall event on Hillary's own campaign tour. All of the candidates have softball plants at their campaign town hall meetings. They'd be idiots not to. You're acting like this is some perversion of democracy. Our political primary season has always been a test of showmanship.

Also, let's put this last little non sequitur in context. Obama's Justice Department has jailed more whistleblowers than ever because there are more whistleblowers now than ever. We are at the beginning stages of this digital age, and yes, there are more people taking classified data out because it is possible to do so, and increasingly easy. Also, a very small percentage of the people who are prosecuted are actually whistleblowers. A lot of them are actually trading scoops and classified information to journalists for money.

But let's not pretend like the inevitable outcome of whistleblowing is not prison. That's sort of the sacrifice you are making for your country and the conversation, isn't it? I mean, taking classified government secrets and giving them to non-government entities is a crime. Sometimes, freedom and public knowledge is important enough to make the sacrifice. But if you get caught, you are going to jail. You may be doing a service to your country, but you have to know before you do it that you are going to go to prison for a while. Don't be naive.

Man, chasing these goalposts around is good exercise. You can't seem to stay on the topics you brought up. You remind me of KellyAnne Conway.

[Divinity]

Regardless, it does not look good. I never trusted CNN anyway. I'm sure we'll find out more in the coming days.

What doesn't look good?  

Brazille sent the Clinton Campaign a question for an upcoming segment on CNN.  This wasn't some question sent to her in advance to give her some advantage for the town hall debate.  It wasn't even for a goddamn debate.  The Sanders campaign confirmed that they received similar questions.  But no, it looks bad because you decided that it looks like bias before even hearing what the fuck it was all about.

[abaris]

She did, however, release the names and identities of informants and undercover agents in the field. She didn't curate the documents she took. I am all for whistleblowing, but if you just data dump, there will and should be consequences.

Blame her for being naive. Assange asserted that the names would be blacked out at release, if I remember the story correctly. That's where Assange revealed himself to be an asshole of gigantic proportions. He was the one throwing their names to the wolves. Most supporters and coworkers left him at this point in time.

[Iroscato]

So many storms in teacups this election year...