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Theological confusion
August 25, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Heard a radio broadcast today where a theolgian (can't recall their name) claimed that "god does not exist, he is existence.". What does that mean? It seems impossibly incoherent and formally invalid. Sounds like newage mumbo jumbo.
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RE: Theological confusion
August 25, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Sounds like that 'Godhead' dude that got banned a few weeks back. He claimed that all of existence was simply a 'manifestation of god'. God didn't create the universe... he is the universe.
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RE: Theological confusion
August 25, 2010 at 4:18 pm
(August 25, 2010 at 4:16 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: Sounds like that 'Godhead' dude that got banned a few weeks back. He claimed that all of existence was simply a 'manifestation of god'. God didn't create the universe... he is the universe.
And this is different from pantheism how?
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RE: Theological confusion
August 25, 2010 at 4:27 pm
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RE: Theological confusion
August 25, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Basically, saying 'God is existence' is no different in practice from atheism. Nor is pantheism, nor, to a large extent, is deism. Only when it affects your morality, your political views, your approach to science and reason, your routine, your diet, your love life and so forth is it any different in practice. That's why all non-theists are essentially the same, in my view, even if we squabble a bit about metaphysics and burden of proof. Let us unite!
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RE: Theological confusion
August 25, 2010 at 5:11 pm
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RE: Theological confusion
August 26, 2010 at 12:10 pm
(August 25, 2010 at 2:47 pm)Captain Scarlet Wrote: Heard a radio broadcast today where a theolgian (can't recall their name) claimed that "god does not exist, he is existence.". What does that mean? It seems impossibly incoherent and formally invalid. Sounds like newage mumbo jumbo.
A lot of statements which seem meaningless when quoted in isolation can make perfect sense when you know the entire context in which they were made. Did you listen to the entire broadcast to find out what it meant?
His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
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