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RE: Supernatural Evidence?
October 31, 2016 at 7:46 am
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(October 17, 2016 at 8:49 pm)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: Alright self-proclaimed athiests, this is where your integrity is put into question. As some of you will so valiantly declair nuetrality, the default position being a lack of belief in god, rather than being closed off to the possibility.
Taking that stance will leave you inlcined to be open to the supernatural, as the very idea of God implies supernatural. This isn't a 'GOTCHA' question, i have a following proposition.
So, are you open to supernatural evidence?
I am open to the possibility of illogical entities. It just means that, in spite of defying logic, they do exist. The real question is what kind of evidence can you show me that such illogical entities (or events) exist?
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RE: Supernatural Evidence?
October 31, 2016 at 10:53 am
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(October 31, 2016 at 7:23 am)Mr Greene Wrote: Except that the baseline assumption is that the Universe was created specifically for the contest of good vs. evil thus must be a component part at the most fundamental level, thus the rock must be good or evil or the assumption is falsified.
First of all, I don't know what you're basing that assumption on.
Secondly do you really want to have this discussion?
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RE: Supernatural Evidence?
October 31, 2016 at 11:37 am
That is the narrative of all the Abrahamics.
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RE: Supernatural Evidence?
October 31, 2016 at 11:46 am
Except it isn't...
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RE: Supernatural Evidence?
October 31, 2016 at 11:52 am
You're claiming the Abrahamics don't have a good vs. evil narrative?
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RE: Supernatural Evidence?
October 31, 2016 at 12:00 pm
No, I'm saying you're wrong about the universe being created for that specific purpose.
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RE: Supernatural Evidence?
October 31, 2016 at 12:03 pm
(October 17, 2016 at 8:49 pm)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: Alright self-proclaimed athiests, this is where your integrity is put into question. As some of you will so valiantly declair nuetrality, the default position being a lack of belief in god, rather than being closed off to the possibility.
Taking that stance will leave you inlcined to be open to the supernatural, as the very idea of God implies supernatural. This isn't a 'GOTCHA' question, i have a following proposition.
So, are you open to supernatural evidence?
I don't just lack a belief in the existence of a god, I actually believe that a god cannot exist. For many reasons. That is, a god as thought of by most people.
I see the thread has ran to 15 pages so far so I am sure someone has asked you what exactly is supernatural evidence. If it's part of reality then it's not supernatural, it's natural.
If by supernatural you mean evidence not yet explained by our current understanding of nature then how is that different from standard scientific enquiry?
So supernatural by definition basically means fantasy. In which case it can't be used as evidence.
As you say, the very idea of God implies supernatural, i.e. fantasy.
But yes I'm glad that you are now asking for evidence. Definitely a step in the right direction towards becoming an atheist.
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RE: Supernatural Evidence?
October 31, 2016 at 12:06 pm
If that were so why would it be destroyed at the conclusion of the battle of good vs. evil?
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RE: Supernatural Evidence?
October 31, 2016 at 12:17 pm
That's in reference to the earth, (which was corrupted btw) not the universe. Even then the earth isn't destroyed; it's purged.
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RE: Supernatural Evidence?
October 31, 2016 at 12:26 pm
So the Apocalypse isn't the Apocalypse?
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