Voted yesterday.....

[Doubting Thomas]

Oh yeah, Trump's totally not corrupt. He totally paid off all those contractors he never paid, and totally didn't have his charitable organization pay for improvements to his properties or pay off lawsuits against his business. And he totally filed the paperwork to be able to collect donations. And he's totally not a sexual predator. Totally. So instead let's focus on emails which Hillary actually never sent.

[Crossless2.0]

Also, Thump is abundantly on record here as not supporting Clinton.

Oh, stop bringing up facts. There's a narrative that needs to be told, and he's gonna tell it, by gum!

Fuck. Sorry. I forgot we were pretending to be in the parallel right-wing universe. Carry on, you Hillary-loving Commie!

[ReptilianPeon]

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I know, people are already butthurt before it's even happened.

If she's elected Hillary would be the first president elect to be under a criminal investigation. She's the most corrupt candidate to ever run for the office...

New batch of Wikileaks into Podesta's emails...

'Dump all those emails': Latest WikiLeaks tranche reveals #Podesta advice"

https://www.rt.com/usa/364959-clinton-po...wikileaks/

"Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, John Podesta <[email protected]> wrote:  > On another matter....and not to sound like Lanny, but we are going to have > to dump all those emails so better to do so sooner than later"

https://www.wikileaks.com/podesta-emails/emailid/41841

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It's sad that both Hilary and Donald each have their own troubles with law. This sort of think wouldn't be acceptable in other Western countries - except maybe Italy - and on top of that you still have people saying Hilary will be the best president there ever was. Thankfully, I don't get my news from the state run media (that has been colluding with Clinton's cronies) so I'm not really affected by the brainwashing that has been occurring.

Saying that, I do I think it's wonderful that Hilary stored all that top secret and Special Access Program stuff on an unsecured (for several months) home-brew server, because gives us a window into the deep state which we otherwise may not have. If it really is the Russians hacking for all of these e-mails then they should be thanked for exposing all of the corruption that exists. For example, you have certain media outlets becoming, basically, like the Korean Central Broadcasting Committee and sing the praises of Dear Leader Hilary - which is not healthy for democracy.

I think her track-record and the blatant attacks on democracy are far more serious than where she stored certain e-mails. Evidently, she loves money and war. And a spy from a hostile nation could easily donate some money, maybe a couple million US$, to the Clinton Foundation and gain access to parts of the goverment that are strictly off limits to ordinary people - like that Chicago commodities trader who was put on an advisory board for tactical nuclear weapons.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I think her track-record and the blatant attacks on democracy are far more serious than where she stored certain e-mails. Evidently, she loves money and war. And a spy from a hostile nation could easily donate some money, maybe a couple million US$, to the Clinton Foundation and gain access to parts of the goverment that are strictly off limits to ordinary people - like that Chicago commodities trader who was put on an advisory board for tactical nuclear weapons.

The ISAB is not part of the government. Also, from your own link --

"The ISAB's charter stipulates that the board should reflect a balance of backgrounds and points of view. Generally speaking, it's not unusual for the State Department chief of staff to be involved in personnel matters," State Department spokesman Mark Toner said in a statement to CNN.

Here's what wikipedia has to say about him:

Around the same time, an ABC News report brought his appointment into question. In relation to the 2016 presidential election, ABC News revisited the terms of Fernando's ISAB appointment, questioning his experience and contributions to the Clinton Foundation. Those criticisms were later scrutinized as mischaracterizing Fernando's background in cyber security following reports and comment released by the State Department and ISAB. According to the ISAB Charter, membership should reflect a balance of backgrounds, points of view, and demographic diversity and include a wide variety of scientific, military, diplomatic, and political backgrounds.
ISAB executive director Richard Hartman referred Fernando as an expert in "cyber security," and said that Fernando has experience in the private sector implementing sophisticated risk management systems, information technology and international financial markets. Retired Brigadier General Stephen A. Cheney, ISAB member and CEO of American Security Project, recognized Fernando's "expertise in cyber-security [as] a great asset to [U.S.] national security."
Fernando’s expertise in financial systems aligns with ISAB work related to financial security, including a 2014 ISAB report that was released regarding cyber security in the financial industry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raj_Fernando

Now, do you have evidence she emplaced a "spy", or are you simply regurgitating talking points?

Sounds to me like the latter is the case, given the paltry support in your post. She appointed someone who agreed with her, and who was apparently well-qualified in security issues, to a non-governmental board (no matter your mischaracterization).

Odd fact: as a business manager, I tended to appoint people into positions when they actually agreed with me. That they had a competence I could use was gravy. It doesn't necessarily speak to ethics. I think you're reading into this a little beyond what the source you link says. Got anything else?

[ReptilianPeon]

Now, do you have evidence she emplaced a "spy", or are you simply regurgitating talking points?

I'm saying that could happen, not necessarily that it has happened. There is no indication that has happened yet. What I am saying though, is people see the massive pay for play corruption and some hostile actors will contemplate the possibility that they could get one of their spies to donate to the the Clinton Foundation to get a job somewhere. I should have been clearer on that.

One way of looking at it is, yes, as a manager you want to surround yourself with "yes people". Some managers are like that. I would personally rather heat a diverse range of views because I know I don't have a monopoly in good ideas. But...I don't think I have the right qualities to make a good manager so it really doesn't matter what I think in that regard.

[Brian37]

Oh yeah, Trump's totally not corrupt.  He totally paid off all those contractors he never paid, and totally didn't have his charitable organization pay for improvements to his properties or pay off lawsuits against his business.  And he totally filed the paperwork to be able to collect donations.  And he's totally not a sexual predator.  Totally.  So instead let's focus on emails which Hillary actually never sent.

And he is totally not being accused by several women, including a couple whom were under age at the time, of sexual assault.

[A Theist]

Oh please. David Brock is a political hack and a Clinton apologist. I don't buy his BS for one minute. Release, means to release. To make public. Dump, means to get rid of. To hide from the public view and to hide from investigation.

Not necessarily. You realize that people use terms in ways that are colloquial to them on occasion, right? For instance, when I say a guy got "dusted off", it doesn't mean that I grabbed a feather duster and went to town (by the way, in this context "went to town" doesn't mean "drove into Austin", it means [i]got to work with alacrity

That's just wishful thinking of the yellow dogs and never Trumpers. I think it was fully understood by Cheryl Mills what Podesta meant by, Dump those emails, to get rid of, delete by "bleach bit"....

"MILLS ORDERED TECHNICIANS TO DELETE THE EMAILS AGAIN — In March 2015 after the story broke in the national news!
We now know that Clinton Campaign discussed destroying email evidence after the story broke nationally about her private email server."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/...bleachbit/

"DOJ's Peter Kadzik Exposed Colluding With Clinton Campaign"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-02...ds-podesta

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/43150

[Edwardo Piet]

Trump would be the worst president ever by a long, long way.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Not necessarily. You realize that people use terms in ways that are colloquial to them on occasion, right? For instance, when I say a guy got "dusted off", it doesn't mean that I grabbed a feather duster and went to town (by the way, in this context "went to town" doesn't mean "drove into Austin", it means [i]got to work with alacrity

That's just wishful thinking of the yellow dogs and never Trumpers. I think it was fully understood by Cheryl Mills what Podesta meant by, Dump those emails, to get rid of, delete by "bleach bit"....

"MILLS ORDERED TECHNICIANS TO DELETE THE EMAILS AGAIN — In March 2015 after the story broke in the national news!
We now know that Clinton Campaign discussed destroying email evidence after the story broke nationally about her private email server."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/...bleachbit/

"DOJ's Peter Kadzik Exposed Colluding With Clinton Campaign"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-02...ds-podesta

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/43150

Then why, after the Podesta e-mail that has you in such a lather, did Hillary release a shit-ton of e-mails?

[Doubting Thomas]

Trump would be the worst president ever by a long, long way.

And probably the last one.  He asked three times in a briefing why we don't use our nuclear weapons.  That right here ought to scare the hell out of everyone.