America Great again!

[Drich]

No. WE could not defete him. It says something about fundamental human nature, not about Hillary.
I wish I could have seen Bernie vs Trump, but after what I just saw, I'm not sure it would have made a difference. Bernie wasn't selling fear or hate. Clearly that is what the people want. And denial.

8 years of a black man that people blamed for literally everything, this was some kind of inevitable backlash. The angry white Christians have declared war, regardless of the cost. I only hope the cost isn't too high.

obamie is not black, or rather he is just as much black as he is white. On a 'politician' or racist would look at that man and call him black if they knew of his lineage.

Obamie's failure has to do with doubling the national debt with his legacy health care system that does not work.
showing no discernible gdp growth
Making bad trade deals
Alienating the US with non-European countries
creating a vacuum from which ISIS was allowed to form.
Not taking the threat seriously referring to them as the JV team of terrorism.
Not supporting police officers
Supporting domestic terrorists
which has divided this country into black verse white in places where these issues had been long since put to bed.

These things are just the start of what his legacy truly is.. Then clinton promises not only to carry on with this nonsense, but to double down on it in some cases?

You could not defeat him because more than 1/2 of america looks past the ficad or narritive of the campain to the steady decline in our bank accounts, the stead increase of the cost of living and says hey, what their saying is BS. Then the other guy comes along and provides data to support the BS Charge.

This for most America was not a social issue, this was a political/role of government issue. Most of america wants less government not more.

[Drich]

What would you say to me if I took the same stance regarding Mrs Clinton?

I would roll my eyes. Honestly, Pence is the worst thing that could happen to LGBT people in this election. That's undeniable.

I believe that Trump/pence does not give two squirts about the LGTB community. The most negitive thing they will do is deregulate any federal mandates concerning the the LGBT. Meaning it will be up to the states to decide what is and is not legal. I don't see that happening as a direct result of anything trump himself does.. This may simply be a consenquence of who get put in the supreme court.

What you moron's don't get is trump is about smaller governement mean less demand/restrictions from a federal level, which means we can do more as indivisuals in our own communities.

The founders invisioned a country of many states or rather a country of '50' smaller countries, that unite under one banner to provide a stable ecconomy, and defense. Which allows the states to regulate themselves. If the people in califorina want ABC but the people in Ohio don't want ABC but 123 then the people in both states should be allowed to legalize what they like and make illegal what they do not. Under Clinton the whole country was being forced to adopt thing not everyone agreed with. Smaller government/Trump great america puts that power back into the hands of Americans and not a leader who writes executive orders when due process shoots his foolish ideas down.

[Drich]

No. WE could not defete him. It says something about fundamental human nature, not about Hillary.
I wish I could have seen Bernie vs Trump, but after what I just saw, I'm not sure it would have made a difference. Bernie wasn't selling fear or hate. Clearly that is what the people want. And denial.

8 years of a black man that people blamed for literally everything, this was some kind of inevitable backlash. The angry white Christians have declared war, regardless of the cost. I only hope the cost isn't too high.

You could have had a chance at defeating him if you nominated Bernie Sanders.

Wish I had saw that as well...

People overwhelmingly wanted change. That is what brought people out in record numbers to vote for trump. Berinie was an agent of change, but as the results bear out it is change in the wrong direction.

No, clinton was your best hope this go round, but she was not what the country wanted.

[Joods]

To be fair, it's probably better to stand behind the pussy grabber than in front of him.

I dunno.

Instead of a reach around the front, he might try a reversal.

[Drich]

If your depiction is correct then what does that say for Clinton?  That she is so inept she could not defeat a racist, mysoginist, willfully ignorant fear monger.

It says to me that enough U.S. Citizens are uneducated (that was his base demographic after all, before anyone gets all offended by my word choice), ignorant, followers in desperate need of someone to say things that make them feel safe; followers who fall back on hate, scapegoating, and bigotry in order to assuage their own irrational fears, and fill in the spaces where tangible knowledge and critical thinking should be.  

It says to me that America wanted a playground bully for president regardless of his character, and embarrassing lack of understanding regarding economic and sociopolitical issues.  

It tells me that a lot of  Americans are blissfully happy to throw their vote to a pathological liar with the worst case of Dunning Kruger complex I have ever seen, so long as he shouts out all the right buzz words.  

It says to me that my country is full of LAZY thinkers.

I guess the only real issue here is why I should find any of the above at all surprising...

Blame it on the 'uneducated.' Sounds like sour grapes to me.

Because otherwise if you think about it, essentially what you are saying is 'educated' people all think a certain way that will yield a predictable result... in this case education would compel you to vote clinton

Now what if said people, were educated in a place like china or russia? Where certain values and idealisms are preprogrammed in as a matter of course to obtain the title 'educated?' would they, having some of the finest educations russia or china had to offer, also vote clinton if given the oppertunity? According to my facebook feed, no.

So then if all of our core studies are the same (Math, science ect..) is in agreement between our education systems what or why would an educated person of a russia or china vote differenly than an 'educated person here?

 what if... what you can identify as 'propaganda/preprogramming' from their state.. is simply different from the preprogramming from out state funded universities and collages??

In other words what if the 'education' you speak of in your post (that would compell an american to vote clinton) is just state mandated propaganda?

Would then an education be such a prized possession? Is this state mandated propaganda the reason bernie wants to give away collage? So that the state can properly influence what is moral and what is not? To get everyone thinking the same way? To make a nation of socialist robots?

Now put a pin in that thought and follow me over to the evangelical vote. You may want to dismiss the evangelicals as all being backwards or uneducated, but in fact most are indeed educated, but not at state run universities. Do you think 'educated' evangelicals who hold a 4 year degree or greater voted for clinton?

Again if the core studies are all the same (as with the russian and cinese example I gave) Ask yourself what differs from a private/religious education and a state sponsored one? what makes the educated christian vote differently than what you identifies as an 'educated' person? Again, It's the state sponcered propaganda/morality that you have being 'educated by the state' that privately educated people who do not have.

Now, that we isolated or identified the catylist for a clinton vote or rather a 'progressive' vote what makes you think your propaganda is better/more righteous than russia's or china's social propaganda? or the social propaganda of the 1920s where the KKK ran rampant or better than the social (science based) propaganda of Hitler's germany?

If you only use the parameters of right and wrong defined in the rules of the propaganda itself to judge your social movement you will always be able to justify whatever evils society wants to do, and you will always beable to justify calling others who do not agree with you evil as well.

In truth, you are right... Not enough people were programmed to pull off a clinton win. Now if you can truly objectively look at yourself as you look at others, ask yourself is that a bad thing? Am I truly on the right side of this argument?

[Divinity]

Lol. I love my fans. I don't think that wicked old witch, Ginsburg, will be here. She said something about jumping on her broom and flying to New Zealand if Trump was elected. Hopefully the wrinkled up hateful old  hag will fall off and break her bloody neck on the way. I'm not worried about that commie Warren having broad appeal but to a handful of radical anarchists.

Nice to see that you don't know what the fuck "commie' is.  Or an 'anarchist' for that matter.  Because somehow you think the two are connected, and the Warren is a 'communist'.  I hope you lose your fucking insurance when the ACA is overturned and then get a pre-existing condition so you can't get insurance.  You deserve it.  You really do.

[Drich]

On a brighter note, I rarely watch tv.  TWD is the only show I watch regularly.  
With a Trump victory however Saturday Night Live should have plenty of material for the next 4 years and might actually be funny again.

I agree the comedy will get better. Can I ask you again what year America was great? What year we are going back to?

It was not one year but a whole period. After the founding father's passed, America was good for a while. then began a steady decline then the civil war happened, which was not a bad thing for this country. In fact it was engineered by the founding Fathers via the second amendment. The civil war was the net result to the right of a citizen to bear arms and take up arms to defend their rights/nation against any thread foreign or DOMESTIC. The civil war was a wiping of the slate, and a steady incline began which peaked (great depression social issues and all) at the end of WWII. From there we plateaued for a while then in the 50s forward we have been loosing ground. socially, our states began to loose the right to independently govern themselves as independent of the federal government, and our position globally began to faulter trying to be the world police force. Industrially we peaked in the mid 70s then because of the unions we began to export jobs.

The term to make america great again points to the idea that we can recapture our independence/statehood is re empowered (meaning we can live independantly of whatever we define as the nut jobs in other states./We can live with like minded people and not be forced to accept a central morality or central set of rules) It also means we will re establish our industrial base, and rebuild the infrastructure/transportation of this country.

Because during the time period I mention we were expanding all of those things and it is what made America great. It was a celebration of diversity not only of race, but of religion and creed as well. If you didn't want to be religious you could move to a less religious state if you want more there were more. if you wanted to be xenophobic there were places inbred just for that reason while others were sausage fests relatively speaking...

We lost that in the name of mandated tolerance. (the intolerance of the intolerant) We lost our industrial base, we lost our jobs for our core demo, we lost our freedoms just to paint ourselves 'educated and tolerant.'

[Joods]

I dunno..

I think the indigenous peoples of this land would disagree with you.

[Drich]

American basically elected Pence for president.

The Donald wants to be called Mr. President, but I don't think he really wants to BE Mr. President and all the work that goes along with it.

If you remember the New York Times story from back in July on how The Donald picked his running mate. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/magazi...-mate.html



Back in August John Kasich confirmed to CNN that Donald Trump Jr. tried to entice him with being the most powerful VP ever by putting him in charge of foreign and domestic policy. 



The anti-establishment got bait-and-switched with the establishment.

The guy who doesn't believe that smoking causes cancer?  Lovely.  Bend over and bite down America; Trump/Pence are going in dry!

Smoking does not cause cancer or EVERYONE who smokes would have it. In truth smoking or exposure to the carcinogens in cigarette smoke can triggers potentially cancerous growths/damaged cells. we all have potentialy cancer cells in our bodies all the time. It is just a matter of you body being able to flag them and dispose of the before it is overwhelmed and the over abundance of these damaged cells takes hold. For some the smoke weaken the imune response and the damaged cells take over and in others smoke triggers the over production of cells which can be just made by your body which would mean there is a genetic reason you have cancer, that was triggered by the carcinogens in the smoke.

[Drich]

I thought the 80's and early 90's were awesome. Great football, music, economy, etc.  it seemed like a prosperous time to me. Sure it had its problems but I remember life being good.

money was also worth something then. I started work @3.25 per hour and could live off of that.