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RE: Trump is president; Who is to blame?
November 9, 2016 at 6:16 pm
(November 9, 2016 at 6:01 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: (November 9, 2016 at 5:57 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: You did exactly that yourself yesterday. Are you really this thoughtless? Color me skeptical, but it seems to me that you're a bit of a hypocrite.
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RE: Trump is president; Who is to blame?
November 9, 2016 at 6:36 pm
Quote:The rest of you cunts can truly go fuck yourselves.
Ok, but I'm going to need a nap and a muscle relaxer...
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RE: Trump is president; Who is to blame?
November 9, 2016 at 6:42 pm
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Just saw this post on reddit that got gilded 4 times. Thought it might be worth sharing:
Quote:I've been ranting on my Facebook feed to all my liberal friends who have been raging at this result, and who have been ostracizing anyone who even remotely supported Trump.
It's shit like this that helped allow Trump to be president. Grown-ass adults on both sides can't have political discussions without turning into argumentative children, and the rhetoric on both sides got to such a level that there was no possibility for connection. Everyone wants their precious comfort zone where they're only surrounded by people who agree with them, and those who don't are vilified. Because of this there's no exchange of ideas. There's no mutual respect. Division leads to ignorance, which leads to hate, which leads to Trump.
52 million people can't all be racist, sexist, straight white men. There's a segment of that electorate that voted against Hillary more than voted for Trump, there's a segment that begrudgingly voted for Trump because they simply wanted their jobs back, there were segments that could have been reasoned with, and possibly turned, if Hillary supporters didn't ostracize them the moment they found out they were voting for Trump. This "us" vs "them" shit needs to stop. I know the reasons for his rise is actually a more complex image than this rant is painting, but this was a big factor, and will continue to be a big factor if we don't grow the fuck up.
It's an unpopular opinion in my LA-based feed, but Trump's existence is everyone's fault. Politics and religion should not be taboo subjects. We're adults, and we should act like adults. Discuss, respect, change minds when new information is presented, or agree to disagree. Otherwise the extremists on both sides win, and people like Trump can be president.
EDIT: For the record I voted for Hillary and I consider myself left-of-center politically. The point of this post was not to take one side or the other on this issue, but to point out there's an issue in the first place.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/5...n/d9t9pmg/
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RE: Trump is president; Who is to blame?
November 9, 2016 at 6:48 pm
(November 9, 2016 at 6:42 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Just saw this post on reddit that got gilded 4 times. Thought it might be worth sharing:
Quote:I've been ranting on my Facebook feed to all my liberal friends who have been raging at this result, and who have been ostracizing anyone who even remotely supported Trump.
It's shit like this that helped allow Trump to be president. Grown-ass adults on both sides can't have political discussions without turning into argumentative children, and the rhetoric on both sides got to such a level that there was no possibility for connection. Everyone wants their precious comfort zone where they're only surrounded by people who agree with them, and those who don't are vilified. Because of this there's no exchange of ideas. There's no mutual respect. Division leads to ignorance, which leads to hate, which leads to Trump.
52 million people can't all be racist, sexist, straight white men. There's a segment of that electorate that voted against Hillary more than voted for Trump, there's a segment that begrudgingly voted for Trump because they simply wanted their jobs back, there were segments that could have been reasoned with, and possibly turned, if Hillary supporters didn't ostracize them the moment they found out they were voting for Trump. This "us" vs "them" shit needs to stop. I know the reasons for his rise is actually a more complex image than this rant is painting, but this was a big factor, and will continue to be a big factor if we don't grow the fuck up.
It's an unpopular opinion in my LA-based feed, but Trump's existence is everyone's fault. Politics and religion should not be taboo subjects. We're adults, and we should act like adults. Discuss, respect, change minds when new information is presented, or agree to disagree. Otherwise the extremists on both sides win, and people like Trump can be president.
EDIT: For the record I voted for Hillary and I consider myself left-of-center politically. The point of this post was not to take one side or the other on this issue, but to point out there's an issue in the first place.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/5...n/d9t9pmg/
I can't disagree. Far too many people seem to think that 'opponent' and 'enemy' mean the same thing.
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RE: Trump is president; Who is to blame?
November 9, 2016 at 6:58 pm
Yes. You are to blame. And you. And you and you and you. And me too.
I've ALWAYS disagreed with using terms such a Republicant and Libtard. I never ONCE called Trump anything other than his name. None of this Drumpf nonesense. I will not call all of his supporters bigots. None of that helps anyone.
That being said, electing Trump has, if anything, made these behaviors even more socially acceptable because he himself engages in them. So we now have a big a-ok to act like a bunch of schoolroom children, without even the people at the top as better examples. So here we go guys, it'll only get worse. People are inflamed, and instead of an antibiotic, we chose to drink some toxin. Yum.
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RE: Trump is president; Who is to blame?
November 9, 2016 at 7:25 pm
Quote:So we now have a big a-ok to act like a bunch of schoolroom children,
If you accuse me of acting like a school kid, I'm gonna tell my big brother and THEN you be sorry!
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RE: Trump is president; Who is to blame?
November 9, 2016 at 7:26 pm
(November 9, 2016 at 6:58 pm)Aroura Wrote: Yes. You are to blame. And you. And you and you and you. And me too.
I've ALWAYS disagreed with using terms such a Republicant and Libtard. I never ONCE called Trump anything other than his name. None of this Drumpf nonesense. I will not call all of his supporters bigots. None of that helps anyone.
That being said, electing Trump has, if anything, made these behaviors even more socially acceptable because he himself engages in them. So we now have a big a-ok to act like a bunch of schoolroom children, without even the people at the top as better examples. So here we go guys, it'll only get worse. People are inflamed, and instead of an antibiotic, we chose to drink some toxin. Yum.
This is the thing. If the regressive left were actually "the bigger person", and didn't resort to the shit slinging themselves, who knows, we might have a different outcome.
While it was widely celebrated on this forum, I would be ashamed to be honest if someone I was voting for was labelling opposing voters as deplorable. I mean, if you respond in kind with that kind of negativity you're not looking to change minds. You're shooting yourself in the foot.
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November 9, 2016 at 7:37 pm
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Regressive left.
Yes see, everyone does it. While talking to me, who agreed with you. Tiny little insults loaded everywhere. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it from everyone.
This is the new norm, and it's gonna get a fuck ton worse before it gets better.
I for one, will not do it anymore. Enough.
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RE: Trump is president; Who is to blame?
November 9, 2016 at 7:37 pm
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@Napo
Or if they'd lived up to the moniker "the left" -while- slinging shit...even. "Bigot says what? We're busy making america a better place" - and actually did it. The shining achievement of "the left" has been obamacare...but why did we get such a turd...not, as people have re-imagined and manu-membered, because of republicans...no no no, the dems did that -and- obstructed it, simultaneously. You're welcome america. We -on- the left (the actual left, mind you) have been complaining about what passes for the left for what...more than a decade now...but then suddenly, with the election...we develop amnesia?
The left didn't lose because they used too many mean, if accurate, words...it wasn't a failure of manners and etiquette, or even image.....good god I hope that's not the takeaway from this.......
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RE: Trump is president; Who is to blame?
November 9, 2016 at 7:39 pm
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(November 9, 2016 at 7:37 pm)Aroura Wrote: Regressive left.
Yes see, everyone does it. While talking to me, who agreed with you. Tiny little insults loaded everywhere. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it from everyone.
This is the new norm, and it's gonna get a fuck ton worse before it gets better.
I for one, will not do it anymore. Enough.
Me using the term regressive left was in no way an insult to you Aroura, or meant as one. Maybe read the wiki article on the regressive left epithet.
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