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The Best Evidence For God and Against God
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RE: The Best Evidence For God and Against God
November 18, 2016 at 7:39 am (This post was last modified: November 18, 2016 at 7:42 am by The Joker.)
(November 18, 2016 at 7:37 am)robvalue Wrote: Wait, you posted this in Christianity. So why are you asking me which religion?

Also, why should I care if God exists? I have a separate thread about that subject.

I accidentally posted it in this area, this should be in the religious area. Unless you could help me move it.
(November 18, 2016 at 7:27 am)robvalue Wrote: God could exist, whatever the fuck it's meant to be, but yet have nothing to do with our reality. So A is wrong. You could define "God" to try and make this work better.

B is also wrong because you're presenting a false dichotomy. Removing one explanation is not license to make up anything you want in its place.

Could you first please explain why it has nothing to do with our reality?
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RE: The Best Evidence For God and Against God
November 18, 2016 at 7:43 am
Some Christians say god created life through abiogenisis and evolution. Francis Collins , for instance.
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!






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RE: The Best Evidence For God and Against God
November 18, 2016 at 7:43 am (This post was last modified: November 18, 2016 at 7:45 am by robvalue.)
Sadly I'm not staff any more, but one of them can easily move it for you. I'll send them a request.

I said god could exist yet have nothing to do with our reality. This could have come about as a manifestation of some process in another reality, without anyone realising it.

But as I said, it depends what you mean by God.
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RE: The Best Evidence For God and Against God
November 18, 2016 at 7:47 am (This post was last modified: November 18, 2016 at 7:48 am by The Joker.)
(November 18, 2016 at 7:43 am)robvalue Wrote: Sadly I'm not staff any more, but one of them can easily move it for you. I'll send them a request.

I said god could exist yet have nothing to do with our reality. This could have come about as a manifestation of some process in another reality, without anyone realising it.

But as I said, it depends what you mean by God.

Possibly and defining God depends on what is the true religion? An examination of the different religions would do.
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RE: The Best Evidence For God and Against God
November 18, 2016 at 7:50 am
(November 18, 2016 at 7:47 am)The Joker Wrote:
(November 18, 2016 at 7:43 am)robvalue Wrote: Sadly I'm not staff any more, but one of them can easily move it for you. I'll send them a request.

I said god could exist yet have nothing to do with our reality. This could have come about as a manifestation of some process in another reality, without anyone realising it.

But as I said, it depends what you mean by God.

Possibly and defining God depends on what is the true religion? An examination of the different religions would do.

Joker! If you do not define god then how does your claim that evolution disproves god add up?
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November 18, 2016 at 7:57 am
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RE: The Best Evidence For God and Against God
November 18, 2016 at 8:02 am
(November 18, 2016 at 7:50 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(November 18, 2016 at 7:47 am)The Joker Wrote: Possibly and defining God depends on what is the true religion? An examination of the different religions would do.

Joker! If you do not define god then how does your claim that evolution disproves god add up?

Because evolution is independent from a "god" as it explain things naturally without the intervention of the supernatural.
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RE: The Best Evidence For God and Against God
November 18, 2016 at 8:07 am
(November 18, 2016 at 8:02 am)The Joker Wrote:
(November 18, 2016 at 7:50 am)chimp3 Wrote: Joker! If you do not define god then how does your claim that evolution disproves god add up?

Because evolution is independent from a "god" as it explain things naturally without the intervention of the supernatural.

Evolution is not independent from a god who creates life through evolution. As in the god of Francis Collins.
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November 18, 2016 at 8:08 am
Joker: You are the one making claims regarding "God". It's up to you to define it.

I'll define it, if you want, but I don't see much point. Please stop saying "true"; the whole point here is to establish what is true. If you have to assume something is true before you even start the discussion, then you're assuming your conclusion. If you're going to do that, this is entirely pointless.

My definition of a god:

If a reality was created by an intelligence, that intelligence is god, relative to that reality.

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RE: The Best Evidence For God and Against God
November 18, 2016 at 9:15 am
(November 18, 2016 at 7:30 am)The Joker Wrote:
(November 18, 2016 at 7:27 am)robvalue Wrote: God could exist, whatever the fuck it's meant to be, but yet have nothing to do with our reality. So A is wrong. You could define "God" to try and make this work better.

B is also wrong because you're presenting a false dichotomy. Removing one explanation is not license to make up anything you want in its place.

Defining God depends on which religion is the true religion of God, because different religions defines God differently. You will have to examine the different religions.


But only if there is a true religion of the gods.
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