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Da Fuck, Bob!?
#21
RE: Da Fuck, Bob!?
Quote:This shit is not out of Character for Dylan is all I'm sayin'.

Disagree - this is strongly out of character for him. Rolling Stone has an article pointing out that Dylan has accepted - in person - a dozen awards far less prestigious than the Nobel.

He's being a wanker. He changed his name from 'Zimmerman' to 'Dylan', he might was well change it to 'Wanky Wankerson'.

Boru
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#22
RE: Da Fuck, Bob!?
Dylan blows. Award it to Clapton or posthumously BB King or RL Burnside.
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#23
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(November 19, 2016 at 2:16 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:This shit is not out of Character for Dylan is all I'm sayin'.

Disagree - this is strongly out of character for him.  Rolling Stone has an article pointing out that Dylan has accepted - in person - a dozen awards far less prestigious than the Nobel.

He's being a wanker.  He changed his name from 'Zimmerman' to 'Dylan', he might was well change it to 'Wanky Wankerson'.

Boru

It's not the refusal to accept awards I'm talking about, it's the willfully mysterious persona he's cultivated for well over half a century, creating moves that seem calculated to confuse the fandom apparently just for the fun of it; his discography is littered with albums that seem designed specifically to mess with the fans who expected something else.

Just to use some examples from his discography:
  • The original folk-rock cycle starting with "Bringing it Back Home," which prompted cries of "Judas" from his audience, though his Newport appearance was actually well-recieved. No doubt the change from protest songs to his more trademark impressionistic lyrics on "Another Side" would also count.
  • His radically different voice for "Nashville Skyline."
  • "Self-Portrait," a double-album that seemed to consist mostly of odds and sods, with a strong emphasis on the sods. Griel Marcus once famously started a review with "What is this Shit?" And while fans have softened a little to it, it still sums up many fans' views on the album.
  • His entire Christian rock phase: enough said.
  • Lovesick, an EP that was sold exclusive to Victoria's Secret after Dylan decided for the first and only time, to allow his songs in a commercial.
  • Christmas in the Heart; while Christmas albums are usually the black sheep of an artist's discography, having a Jewish musician do one and play it so dead straight is all the more bizarre.
  • His last two albums have been devoted to covers of Frank Sinatra songs; while it's certainly likely he respects Frank, his style tends to be very different from Frank's, and his infamous voice makes it all the more head-scratching.
 It's not like I'm saying he's like George C. Scott, refusing to accept awards, no matter how prestigious. I'm saying it's in character for him to fuck with those who follow his career, and the albums I cited are just the tip of the iceberg: his literary works, and many of the films he played a major part in are even stranger, and he's infamous for not giving straight answers in interviews throughout his career. If that's being a wanker, then this wankery is still very much in character for him.

Also, the Nobel Committee point blank does not do posthumous prizes. That's why, after years of nominations that didn't actually result in a win, they refused to even give out an award for the Peace Prize the year Gandhi got assassinated.
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#24
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Condensed version. Dylan blows.

Although I was not aware it could not be awarded posthumously. Thank you for the enlightenment.
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#25
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I can't tell you how many times they've offered me the Nobel Prize, and I've had to turn it down due to prior commitments. Once I had an overdue library book to return...another time I needed a fill for my nails. Then there was the time I was busy arguing about free will on the internet.

Sometimes real life gets in the way of receiving international awards. It just happens. No big deal. You can get the Prize for cultural, academic, or scientific achievements, and they give them out every year, so there's plenty of opportunities to receive another one.
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#26
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I can't tell you how many times I've been offered the Novel Prize either Shock

Well, I can tell you, but I won't tell you. Because I don't want to disappoint anyone with the number zero. Oh shit! I slipped up!
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