Democratic marxism and fascism

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

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Which standard was not met. The post with the links has pictures - no attempt at a discussion.

Boru

[Silver]

Brian got TOLD.

[abaris]

Where as trump might be considered right of chimpanzee in most countries.

Sadly, not anymore. The ones voting for creatures like that on the other hand, well that's a different matter entirely.

[account_inactive]

Which standard was not met.  The post with the links has pictures - no attempt at a discussion.

Boru

Well, he asked the question:

Why can't we just get along

And provided a couple of links on new left-wing and right-wing movements, seems like the start of a discussion to me.

Maybe answer the question, no?

[Cobainism]

Bernie isn't a democratic Marxist. He's a social democrat, and he could only be considered far left here in the US because of our fear of all things government.

Left wing marxist. No different than a right wing fascist. Its a slur that people love to give people. The frankfurt marxism is basically the one in the 50s that would basically develop socialism as we now know it starting from 60s and 70s or as its called "The new left" in colleges and universities, the idea is to help and fight for minorities even if your country goes to bonkers because they are more important than the nation of your country itself, white, christian straight males is for example shunned because its a normality. Right wings or fascists are more interested in the nation's interest. In terms of alt right its much more outspoken and a reaction to the development of what new left has become, a much more safe haven for SJW, feminism, welfare money or to translate a failed society in their definition.

I dislike both more or less.

[abaris]

Left wing marxist. No different than a right wing fascist.

Oh, great, another black and white guy.

So every conservative is a fascist, or what are you trying to argue for? Or is it only the left getting the Marxist treatment without looking at what they actually stand for?

Are you quite capable of making distinctions?

[Cobainism]

Left wing marxist. No different than a right wing fascist.

Oh, great, another black and white guy.

So every conservative is a fascist, or what are you trying to argue for? Or is it only the left getting the Marxist treatment without looking at what they actually stand for?

Are you quite capable of making distinctions?

Think of it as irony. Tabloid newspapers loves to label right wings as fascists as a slur. Left wing are usually called if you find anyone crazy enough a communist but its rarely a thing unless you watch Faux News. There are also bad sources of information like TYT or CNN.

The point is all you need to win a political debate is just be loud as you can. As for both movements i just hate them equally. I wish we could replace it with something different because i just dont like either of them

[Silver]

The American people have the power to change the political climate, it is just that the majority is too lazy and would just rather keep things as they are.

And by that I mean that the American people have the power to get rid of the electoral college or change the two party system in some way for the benefit of a system that works better whereby a clown does not gain easy access to the presidency.

[Cobainism]

The American people have the power to change the political climate, it is just that the majority is too lazy and would just rather keep things as they are.

And by that I mean that the American people have the power to get rid of the electoral college or change the two party system in some way for the benefit of a system that works better whereby a clown does not gain easy access to the presidency.

Or you could elect people that would benefit american interests, aswell as not being a world police, since giving free stuff just to be nice is kinda like being exploited and then being blamed for all the bad stuff in the world, thats your problem firstly. While Trump surely is somewhat weird, he doesn't seem to want to get involved with other countries unless they pay. So its more you are on your own, so its not like he wants to police the world atleast unlike previous presidents.

[Brian37]

And obviously missed 30/30.

Apart from that, take a moment to do some real comparison. Such as looking up what Marxism actually is as compared to Bernie Sanders. Also at alt right and the latest highlights of their gatherings. Numerous videos to choose from to get the sound to go with the pictures. I leave it at the pictures for the moment.

I mean the left draws more inspiration from marxist socialism. The right draws more inspiration from fascist conservatism. They have some roots that are historical.

The difference from classical liberalism or left was that in 50s reformed marxism of socialism happend in frankfurt school germany, this became more popular during the vietnam war in 60s and 70s on colleges and universities (Which i linked too) The alt right is most likely a reaction to how it has evolved into, which is an alternative right wing conservative movement.

They figured if they can be loud enough they will win, much like the new left in present time. Which is why i think politics in the past sounds somewhat better for that reason. Not that i like politics or the past so much in general.

What the fuck is this bullshit equivocation to workers rights, which in America gave rise to unions and the middle class to what Stalin twisted Marxism to be. American worker's movement, which even Teddy Roosevelt was for, and even Ford valued his workers wages, IS NOTHING at all like Stalin's Russia.

Bernie is for workers rights, not one party states. Trump is an opportunist just like Castro was.

High taxes on the rich is what we had after WW2 which gave us social safety nets like the GI bill, social security, and our infrastructure that gave us our highways. Reagan started the age of deregulation that gutted all that to fund corporate welfare. 

The data has been in for a century now as to what good policy is. The same thing that caused Bush's great recession is the same no rules free for all gambling that lead to the great depression.