Poor Drumpf..The Nazis Are Coming Home To Roost

[Thumpalumpacus]

So, deporting immigrants etc isn't divisive?

Only illegal immigrants, who are trespassing in a sovereign country. If anything the migrants who come to work the fields should get temporary visas. Much of the money made gets sent back to Mexico and isn't spent in the local economy.

Good to see you've learnt back-pedalling as well as Trump has. It's still shitty rhetoric, calculated to draw in xenophobes, and then applying the back-pedal when called out.

You seem to have ignored the "etc" and focused on only one facet of it. Look forward to reading your explanation of Trump's stances on Muslims as they've changed over the last year.

[TaraJo]

It's more than just the nazi's and other white supremacists who are going to be disappointed in Trump.  He won the presidency by making lots of outlandish promises that he isn't going to be able to keep; for example, building the wall, stopping outsourcing and saving coal.  When the people who voted for him realize he can't follow through, he isn't going to have much of a leg to stand on.

[Minimalist]

So, deporting immigrants etc isn't divisive?

Only illegal immigrants, who are trespassing in a sovereign country. If anything the migrants who come to work the fields should get temporary visas. Much of the money made gets sent back to Mexico and isn't spent in the local economy.

Uh-huh and you know this how?  From reading Breitbart or some other nazi crap.

[SteelCurtain]

It's more than just the nazi's and other white supremacists who are going to be disappointed in Trump.  He won the presidency by making lots of outlandish promises that he isn't going to be able to keep; for example, building the wall, stopping outsourcing and saving coal.  When the people who voted for him realize he can't follow through, he isn't going to have much of a leg to stand on.

Oh how I wish this were so. Even though he will break almost every promise he made on the campaign trail, he will keep one or two, and they will hail him as the second coming because of it.

One stop through the alt-right websites will show you the gymnastics they are already doing with his band of Goldman Sachs retirees and billionaire CEOs and GOP lifers. They are literally changing the meaning of 'drain the swamp' from what it was originally intended to reducing the federal workforce. He's going to shrink the bloated bureaucracy.

It's not going to matter what actually happens. They will make sure to praise anything he does as magnificent.

[Minimalist]

True believers always pull that shit, S-C.

[TaraJo]

True believers always pull that shit, S-C.

Agreed, but the "true believers" aren't the ones who decide elections: the middle of the road, moderates do.  They went for Trump, largely because he addressed the issues they claim to care about.  Coal miners and steel mill workers care about the coal industry.  The constant threats of Muslim extremists in the news has people afraid of Muslims.  "They took our jobs" has been a steady chant against Mexicans coming across the border for decades.  When he isn't able to save manufacturing jobs, when he can't get rid of illegal immigrants, when America still has Muslims in a few years with the media reporting on terrorism from Muslims, those moderates are going to be pissed.  If the democrats have enough sense to nominate someone who will appeal to the middle class moderates, they win.  Hillary made the mistake of appealing to upper middle class, college kids and their divisive brand of identity politics and it killed her in the end.

[Minimalist]

Coal miners and steel mill workers care about the coal industry.

Coal mining has been a declining industry since the mid 80's. 


It has nothing to do with "Mexicans" or "muslims" or "jews" or international trade deals or anything besides the fact that natural gas, which the US has in abundance (right now) is surpassing coal for a variety of reasons.

http://www.powermag.com/natural-gas-over...ys-report/

The growth in natural gas–fired generation in the U.S. since 2007 has overwhelmingly displaced coal-fired generation, according to a report from the Breakthrough Institute released Dec. 15.

Sadly what people want is a magical solution so they don't have to change.  There is no such thing as magic but that doesn't stop far too many of them from listening to a charlatan who tells them what they want to hear.  Hillary told coal miners the truth:  bad move.  They don't want truth.  They can't handle the truth.

[Pat Mustard]

True believers always pull that shit, S-C.

Agreed, but the "true believers" aren't the ones who decide elections: the middle of the road, moderates do.  They went for Trump, largely because he addressed the issues they claim to care about.  Coal miners and steel mill workers care about the coal industry.  The constant threats of Muslim extremists in the news has people afraid of Muslims.  "They took our jobs" has been a steady chant against Mexicans coming across the border for decades.  When he isn't able to save manufacturing jobs, when he can't get rid of illegal immigrants, when America still has Muslims in a few years with the media reporting on terrorism from Muslims, those moderates are going to be pissed.  If the democrats have enough sense to nominate someone who will appeal to the middle class moderates, they win.  Hillary made the mistake of appealing to upper middle class, college kids and their divisive brand of identity politics and it killed her in the end.

The electorate decided for Hillary Clinton by 3.5million and more votes. Just because the electoral college power lies with states that the republicans have gerrymandered the fuck out of, and in November decided to ignore the supreme court rulings on voter suppression doesn't mean that the electorate went for Herr Oberststurmbanngroppenfuhrer. When an election is stolen, generally the person the people want is the person who isn't allowed past the finishing line.

[scoobysnack]

Only illegal immigrants, who are trespassing in a sovereign country. If anything the migrants who come to work the fields should get temporary visas. Much of the money made gets sent back to Mexico and isn't spent in the local economy.

Uh-huh and you know this how?  From reading Breitbart or some other nazi crap.

The only ones who say he is going to deport immigrants are the left who are trying to scare everyone. They are the ones who claim we are all immigrants, but don't understand illegal vs legal immigration. They are the ones who say you can't say illegal immigrants. They are the ones who are confused, and have confused you. Trump isn't against legal immigration, or work visas. It's illegal immigration and the swiss cheese borders that are going to be stopped. The laws are already in place, Obama just hasn't been following them. Trump doesn't even need to create a law, since they already exist.

[The Grand Nudger]

 It's illegal immigration and the swiss cheese borders that are going to be stopped.

LOL, no...Scoob, neither of those things will be or even -can be- stopped.

The laws are already in place, Obama just hasn't been following them. Trump doesn't even need to create a law, since they already exist.

You're expecting ineffectual laws to suddenly become....effectual, "because Trump".......?