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Current time: 21st November 2017, 11:30

Poll: How you work that out?
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My religion represent God
3.70%
1 3.70%
I take from what religions say
0%
0 0%
No religion represent God
25.93%
7 25.93%
I wouldn't know
11.11%
3 11.11%
I am not interested
18.52%
5 18.52%
I have no other way to know so I just write what religions say
0%
0 0%
Nah.
40.74%
11 40.74%
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Do religions represent God?
#11
RE: Do religions represent God?
(6th January 2017, 10:39)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Each religion represents God in exactly the way its adherents  fantasize that God wants to be represented.

Boru


Wrong.

Nothing to do with fantasies.
It was all about the priests desire to become intermediaries between God and the masses.
At that stage they had to create stories like hell and paradise so people would follow them.
It was a very evil plan rather than fantasies.  Lightbulb

(6th January 2017, 10:46)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(6th January 2017, 10:45)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong.

Shiva, Krishna, Jesus and Buddha never intended to start any religion and yet they gave principles to follow.
These people teach spirituality not religions but I guess you wouldn't know the difference.  Smile

...a system of beliefs and values stemming from a supernatural power is a religion, Rik.


Tell me something Fat.
What is the difference between religion and spirituality?  Rolleyes
I strongly believe that this universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it.    Logic   Giacomino the elf told me so and he is always right. [Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRvtOKG_fwIIiY0AHOxoaj...4KiU6ifufB]

When you came into the world you were crying and the world was laughing - live your life in such a way that when you leave this world, the world is weeping and you are laughing.  Tulsi Das
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#12
RE: Do religions represent God?
(6th January 2017, 10:52)Little Rik Wrote:
(6th January 2017, 10:39)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Each religion represents God in exactly the way its adherents  fantasize that God wants to be represented.

Boru


Wrong.

Nothing to do with fantasies.
It was all about the priests desire to become intermediaries between God and the masses.
At that stage they had to create stories like hell and paradise so people would follow them.
It was a very evil plan rather than fantasies.  Lightbulb

(6th January 2017, 10:46)FatAndFaithless Wrote: ...a system of beliefs and values stemming from a supernatural power is a religion, Rik.


Tell me something Fat.
What is the difference between religion and spirituality?  Rolleyes

I don't know of a useful definition for spirituality.  But a system of codified beliefs and values with attendant rituals, especially when attributed to a supernatural force is the definition of religion.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#13
RE: Do religions represent God?
Evaluated by their own Scriptures, it is CLEAR no Christian schism is "doing it" correctly.  

Treating Mormonism separately, they are PROFOUNDLY in error in regards to their own sacred writings.  I will concede a particle of possibility some of the very earliest (and now defunct) Mormon schisms might have been rather close to 'doing it' right, by their own scriptures.

I'd say that while still in considerable error, the most ultra super dooper hyper orthodox Jews might be similarly close as those early and now lost Mormon schisms.

By their own Quran, I'd weigh most Islamites as being at an intermediate level of representing Allah.

Obviously, from an atheist stand point,  all the Abrahamites and Mormons are blowing shit out their assholes.
Heptaclavianism:
the belief that seven nails were used to crucify Jesus Christ; three on Maundy Thursday, and four on Good Friday


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#14
RE: Do religions represent God?
Got to go along with F&F's definition.

But Rik, the difference you're trying to make between spiritualism and religion is problematic. It would be more clear if you called it the difference between practicing a religion and seeking religious experience, like a shaman. If one goes walk about in the wilderness long enough, or ingests 'shrooms/peyote, or engages in a sun dance in order to provoke a vision which one interprets for himself .. then one has engaged in direct religious experience. But if you work with a priest/master the guided exercises and study is more akin to the religious training of the priest class than it is to the direct religious experience of a shaman. Direct religious experience is dangerous. No one who joins the priest/swami class can claim to be above/outside religion. You are firmly anchored in your tradition every bit as much as any catholic priest, Rik.
The kind of believing engaged in by most Christians we meet is not neutral, truth seeking believing. It isn't acceptance of the best supported conclusion, not submission to the facts. "True believers" believe heroically, they launch their belief at their chosen target with enthusiasm. While thrusting their belief forward they will brook no but-what-if's. Facts which do not conform are not recognized. 'True' belief is drunk with celebrating certainty, no further quest is required .. only the constant parrying with nay sayers.
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#15
RE: Do religions represent God?
Christianity and Mormonism alike, I remain AGAST at how in each the early supposedly 'True Believers' (and in the case of Mormonism including the founder himself) despite their professed 'belief' nevertheless felt the uncontrollable urge to change dogma, doctrine, protocol, procedures, strictures, and rules willy nilly.

Yes Apostle Paul, Brigham Young (and Joe Smith), I'm looking at you.
Heptaclavianism:
the belief that seven nails were used to crucify Jesus Christ; three on Maundy Thursday, and four on Good Friday


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#16
RE: Do religions represent God?
There is no fucking god.

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#17
RE: Do religions represent God?
It's what people say god is, that is the representation. Whether in a religious context or not. 

It's still woo.
God(s) and religions are man made and the bane of humanity. 

Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. Ozzy or Twain/take your pick
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#18
RE: Do religions represent God?
That's one confused list of options Big Grin
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#19
RE: Do religions represent God?
(6th January 2017, 15:40)Minimalist Wrote: There is no fucking god.

indubitably, but isn't it grand to evaluate the claimants by their OWN fucking standards and realize they still don't make the cut, and that they in fact don't make the cut by several quadzillion nano-furlongs ?

ROFLOL
Heptaclavianism:
the belief that seven nails were used to crucify Jesus Christ; three on Maundy Thursday, and four on Good Friday


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#20
RE: Do religions represent God?
(6th January 2017, 15:40)Minimalist Wrote: There is no fucking god.

Hell, there isn't even a celibate god.


@ The OP: I would vote on the poll but it's missing a "Little Rik is a confused little bastard" option.
We do not change our minds. Our minds change us.
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