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RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 16, 2017 at 1:38 am
(January 16, 2017 at 12:26 am)robvalue Wrote: If you are doing something because your religion says so, then that's not morality. That's being a mindless drone. You're not concerned with whether or not it's actually a good thing to do. It could just as easily be a bad thing, and you wouldn't know the difference.
If you are concerned with doing good things, this means you have to use this filter to decide which of your religious commandments are good commandments, and ignore the rest. This means you have a system of morality independent from your religion, and the religious commandments are redundant. You're only doing them if you'd do them anyway. Even if it turns out all the religious commandments are good, and you're assessing them, they would still be redundant if you'd follow them anyway.
Indeed blind obedience mixed with blind trust with a dash of cowardice or hedonism does not morality make
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RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 16, 2017 at 7:23 am
(January 15, 2017 at 8:05 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (January 15, 2017 at 7:14 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: "Why is there something rather than nothing?" There just is.
"Why does the world have a rational order?" It just does.
"Why do causes produce regular effects?" They just do.
Yeah, those are reasonable answers...not.
Woah, sweet 90's catchphrase, dude.
Let's try this again...
"Why is there something rather than nothing?" I don't know. Let's investigate. Is this even a sensible question?
"Why does the world have a rational order?" I don't know. Let's investigate, even though I'm not sure how it could have an irrational order.
"Why do causes produce regular effects?" I don't know, but is it even possible that causes could produce irregular effects?
As opposed to...
An invisible, powerful wizard poofed the universe into existence, so I could have a place to live my inherently naughty life to try to pass a test of which this wizard already knows the outcome. Then, in order for me to pass this test, the wizard came down as his own son by magically impregnating a virgin and purposefully got himself nailed to a cross in order to perform a blood sacrifice for my inherent naughtiness. Then he rose from the dead and talked to a few people before ascending to his cloud city paradise. The wizard, who is also the ultimate source of morality, cares nothing about whether I live a moral life, especially since he created me inherently naughty. Instead, all I have to do is believe in the blood sacrifice and I will get to spend eternity in his cloud city paradise instead of burning in a fiery pit for eternity because of the inherent naughtiness the wizard doesn't feel like fixing with his magical powers, which would have prevented atrocities like the mass murder of his chosen people.
Oh, and the reason for all this naughtiness is humanity's free will, even though I'm going to spend eternity in cloud city paradise where there is no naughtiness and I still have free will.
Yeah, that's reasonable alright. Much more so than just admitting you don't know something.
This is one of my favorite posts on AF ever.
Excellently phrased description of just how utterly ridiculous and childish Christianity is.
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RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 16, 2017 at 9:55 am
(January 16, 2017 at 7:23 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: This is one of my favorite posts on AF ever.
Excellently phrased description of just how utterly ridiculous and childish Christianity is.
Flattery will get you kudos.
And to think I had to leave out a metric ton of absurd details for brevity's sake.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 16, 2017 at 10:42 am
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RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 16, 2017 at 12:13 pm
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At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 16, 2017 at 12:24 pm
Who's butt hurt?
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RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 16, 2017 at 12:28 pm
Probably the only one who insists on exhuming long-dead arguments in the hope that, shorn of context, they're going to work this time.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 16, 2017 at 12:51 pm
(January 16, 2017 at 12:28 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Probably the only one who insists on exhuming long-dead arguments in the hope that, shorn of context, they're going to work this time.
Nah, that's just providing evidence along with the claim bud, which you guys insist on...
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RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 16, 2017 at 12:56 pm
Right, so now that evidence is up for examination. Great.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 16, 2017 at 1:01 pm
Then examine it and stop acting all "butt hurt"...
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