Posts: 25314
Threads: 239
Joined: August 26, 2010
Reputation:
156
RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 17, 2017 at 5:40 pm
Then we should be able to detect those interactions at the very least.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
Posts: 4738
Threads: 7
Joined: October 17, 2013
Reputation:
15
RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 17, 2017 at 5:43 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2017 at 6:08 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(January 17, 2017 at 2:20 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: In order for a supernatural causation to be considered, supernatural has to be proved to be a thing.
We know that things occur by natural processes, so this would be the most, and at this stage, only logical possible solution.
My beliefs are based on what can be proven, your faith is despite what can be proven.
Get the difference. *emphasis mine*
Belief and faith are synonymous, there is no difference...
Quote:belief
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/belief
1. something believed; an opinion or conviction: a belief that the earth is flat.
2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: a statement unworthy of belief.
3. confidence; faith; trust: a child's belief in his parents.
4. a religious tenet or tenets; religious creed or faith:
(January 17, 2017 at 5:40 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Then we should be able to detect those interactions at the very least.
We do, just not by scientists.
I posted evidence of those interactions on multiple occasions, and interestingly enough it gets quiet as a mouse up in here...
(January 17, 2017 at 2:56 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (January 17, 2017 at 12:10 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: No I used the word RELATIVE dummy not RELATIVITY, which simply means 'in relation to something else', I'm not talking about the damn theory.
Time being relative is the Theory of Relativity, you fucking simpleton. But, hey, continue to insult people because you're talking about things of which you're obviously clueless. It's not like you'll surprise us and show that you actually have an ounce of shame.
And once again, Huggy avoids the actual point being discussed because he's clearly wrong in order to focus on an irrelevant detail. It's okay, Hugster. We've come to expect nothing less from you.
Ok then, if simply stating that time can be different in relation to point of view is the Theory of relativity, then you admit that the Bible introduced relativity first
(January 17, 2017 at 2:56 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Oh, gee, a guy who is championed by Deepak Chopra. Excuse me if I'm unimpressed.
Also, it appears this guy spends a lot of time talking about the evolution of consciousness and evolutionary psychology. So, I guess you're just picking and choosing what this guy believes in. If it supports what you believe, he's right. If it doesn't support what you believe, he's wrong. Is it too much to ask for some intellectual integrity from you? Oh, wait, what am I saying...
I take it that's a "no" on the brain fillet?
Funny quick you guys are to discredit someone's work based on nothing...
Posts: 7392
Threads: 53
Joined: January 15, 2015
Reputation:
88
RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 17, 2017 at 6:08 pm
(January 17, 2017 at 5:37 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (January 17, 2017 at 2:11 pm)Mathilda Wrote: If your god is a spirit that does not exist within the laws of nature and is not affected by natural law, particles, fields, or time ... then nor can it interact with them making your god completely and utterly non-existent in this reality and irrelevant to your life.
Your logic kinda fails since he's the CREATOR of this reality, and why would the creator be affected by the creation or not be able to interact with it?
If you create or interact with something then it is part of the same reality that you inhabit.
The only thing you can possibly use to argue against this is the fallacious argument of special pleading in the case of your god.
Posts: 4738
Threads: 7
Joined: October 17, 2013
Reputation:
15
RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 17, 2017 at 6:19 pm
(January 17, 2017 at 6:08 pm)Mathilda Wrote: (January 17, 2017 at 5:37 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Your logic kinda fails since he's the CREATOR of this reality, and why would the creator be affected by the creation or not be able to interact with it?
If you create or interact with something then it is part of the same reality that you inhabit.
The only thing you can possibly use to argue against this is the fallacious argument of special pleading in the case of your god.
Do the creators of World of Warcraft exist in WoW's reality?
Posts: 450
Threads: 9
Joined: November 19, 2014
Reputation:
17
RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 17, 2017 at 6:25 pm
(January 17, 2017 at 5:43 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Belief and faith are synonymous, there is no difference... That is absolutely not true. In fact, most Christians don't even believe that. I can't tell you how many times a Christian has told me that God couldn't prove himself because then we would have to believe and faith wouldn't be necessary. In fact, that came up in a conversation I had rather recently here:
(November 23, 2016 at 7:14 pm)Balaco Wrote: (November 23, 2016 at 6:48 pm)Asmodee Wrote: I had a similar experience with a similar outcome. I finally came to the conclusion that the idea of an all-loving god who loved me more than I was even capable of loving would not lay down one right path, allow Satan to lay down tens/hundreds of thousands and then simply expect me to find the one right path on my own with the intention of lighting me on fire for all eternity if I were tricked into choosing wrong, as the Bible clearly says most people searching will be, was a massively idiotic idea.
I was taught that God doesn't give us undeniable proof of his existence as a test of faith...those with righteous minds would find him. Joker and any other Catholics, what are your thoughts on this?
So once again you're talking out your ass with absolute certainty about that which is literally impossible to know with any certainty.
Have you ever noticed all the drug commercials on TV lately? Why is it the side effects never include penile enlargement or super powers?
Side effects may include super powers or enlarged penis which may become permanent with continued use. Stop taking Killatol immediately and consult your doctor if you experience penis enlargement of more than 3 inches, laser vision, superhuman strength, invulnerability, the ability to explode heads with your mind or time travel. Killatoll is not for everyone, especially those who already have convertibles or vehicles of ridiculous size to supplement penis size.
Posts: 7392
Threads: 53
Joined: January 15, 2015
Reputation:
88
RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 17, 2017 at 6:30 pm
(January 17, 2017 at 6:19 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (January 17, 2017 at 6:08 pm)Mathilda Wrote: If you create or interact with something then it is part of the same reality that you inhabit.
The only thing you can possibly use to argue against this is the fallacious argument of special pleading in the case of your god.
Do the creators of World of Warcraft exist in WoW's reality?
World of Warcraft runs on servers using the same laws of physics as the people who wrote the code.
Posts: 4738
Threads: 7
Joined: October 17, 2013
Reputation:
15
RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 17, 2017 at 6:35 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2017 at 6:44 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(January 17, 2017 at 6:25 pm)Asmodee Wrote: (January 17, 2017 at 5:43 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Belief and faith are synonymous, there is no difference... That is absolutely not true. In fact, most Christians don't even believe that. I can't tell you how many times a Christian has told me that God couldn't prove himself because then we would have to believe and faith wouldn't be necessary. In fact, that came up in a conversation I had rather recently here:
So you're going to argue with a damn dictionary/thesaurus?
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/synonym
Quote:synonym
1 A word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example shut is a synonym of close:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/belief
Quote:belief
3. confidence; faith; trust:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/belief
Quote:
- Synonyms and Antonyms of belief
- mental conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some being or phenomenon <a [i]belief in UFO's led him to relentlessly scan the nighttime skies>[/i]
- Synonyms credence, credit, faith
- Related Words axiom, law, precept, principle, tenet; assurance, certainty, certitude, conviction, positiveness, sureness; confidence, dependence (also dependance), reliance, trust; hope; doctrine, dogma, philosophy; dogmatism, fanaticism, insistence
- Phrases article of faith
- Near Antonyms distrust, mistrust, skepticism, suspicion, uncertainty
- Antonyms disbelief, discredit, doubt, nonbelief, unbelief
(January 17, 2017 at 6:30 pm)Mathilda Wrote: (January 17, 2017 at 6:19 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Do the creators of World of Warcraft exist in WoW's reality?
World of Warcraft runs on servers using the same laws of physics as the people who wrote the code.
Yet the rules that apply to warcrafts "world", don't apply to the people that created it, correct?
Posts: 25314
Threads: 239
Joined: August 26, 2010
Reputation:
156
RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 17, 2017 at 6:53 pm
(January 17, 2017 at 6:19 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Do the creators of World of Warcraft exist in WoW's reality?
As far as interacting with it, yes.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
Posts: 4738
Threads: 7
Joined: October 17, 2013
Reputation:
15
RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 17, 2017 at 7:00 pm
(January 17, 2017 at 6:53 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (January 17, 2017 at 6:19 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Do the creators of World of Warcraft exist in WoW's reality?
As far as interacting with it, yes.
So then you agree, that a creator of a "universe" can exist apart from the creation yet still interact with it...
Posts: 25314
Threads: 239
Joined: August 26, 2010
Reputation:
156
RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 17, 2017 at 7:00 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2017 at 7:07 pm by Cyberman.)
(January 17, 2017 at 5:43 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (January 17, 2017 at 5:40 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Then we should be able to detect those interactions at the very least.
We do, just not by scientists.
I posted evidence of those interactions on multiple occasions, and interestingly enough it gets quiet as a mouse up in here...
Could that be because our standards of convincing evidence is a tad higher than yours? Just saying.
How about posting a few of your best ones, just to see how they stand up to scrutiny?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
|