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Slaugherhouse
#11
RE: Slaugherhouse
I worked in a chicken processing plant when I was 19. This isn't pretty, but it doesn't put me off meat.
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#12
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(January 16, 2017 at 7:29 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: One put me onto Valerie Perrine.

Tongue  Hellz yeah! She was smokin' hot n Slaughterhouse 5.
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#13
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(January 16, 2017 at 7:54 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I tried making an all-vegan meal once, but there just wasn't enough meat on them.

I sometimes describe myself as a 'second-level vegetarian' - I try to make sure that I only eat animals that only eat plants.

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#14
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When I was a kid, we had cows and hogs and chickens on the farm. An annual event was selecting a cow to send to the meat locker for us to eat. The freezer would be stocked with all manner of cuts and such. A entire cow, BTW, is a heap of meat, we usually split the haul with relatives.

For the hogs, we usually bought little ones, recently weaned, and then we would feed them till they were ready to turned into hams and bacon and roasts.

When I was in high school we bought pregnant sows a few times, and raised the litters all the way to market weight. We never bred hogs. We did breed cattle though. The bulls we had on the farm knew they had it good. One of my earliest memories is grandpa holding me up so I can pet 'Albert' the bull on his face. He was practically a pet, and he is also the bull that some time later was struck by lightning and killed.

We didn't eat him . . .
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#15
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I have slaughtered chickens , turkeys, and have killed and butchered deer. I think livestock animals in captivity should have a good life and only one bad , short day at the end.
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#16
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Until the farm at around age 7, I thought "chicken with it's head cut off" was just one of my mom's stupid expressions for stupid.
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#17
RE: Slaugherhouse
I read a National Review article on the morality of this subject not too long ago. It's lengthy, but definitely worth the read IMO:

"Unthinkable Today, Obvious Tomorrow: The Moral Case for the Abolition of Cruelty to Animals"
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/44...industries

Despite finding myself in agreement with a lot of this article, I'm no vegetarian.
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#18
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OUr modern form of industrial meat production is a mixed bag. Some of us have enough money to buy ethically raised meat. I buy my beef and lamb from a small local butcher who gets grass fed only. No feed lot. No crowding. No mistreatment. But I'm not going to pretend that this isn't a luxury.

Humans are biologically omnivorous. We eat meat. And industrial meat production, however unpleasant, allows more people to get access to meat. And I can't begrudge that.

When we can grow synthetic meat I will fully support the abolition of feed lots. Until then it's a necessary evil.
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#19
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If there was significantly more demand for small farm produced beef, pork, chicken (ie, people are willing to pay for it) then there would be more.

I also note, farm critters, notably cattle, have an inherent ability to psychologically adjust to their circumstances. For instance, calves raised as 4H entries with copious human pampering and attention rapidly develop 'pet like' personas. The 'losers' (so to speak) after the county fair aren't eaten, they usually resume their ordinary lives back with the herd. And after some months, they are not pets any more, they go back to the herd way of beings. Additionally, strays happen occasionally and sometimes they are on their own for months in the hills. They go feral, rapidly.

So, my point is, the critters are more adaptable to their surroundings than most might suppose.
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#20
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(January 16, 2017 at 5:07 pm)Jesster Wrote:
(January 16, 2017 at 5:02 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: If I remember right that was one of the "required" in jr. high. History I think, trust busting/union period.

Yeah, it's required in some schools. It was never required for me, but I read it anyway. It's a fictional, yet accurate, historical perspective of immigration and slaughterhouses. Good stuff.

I read it last year on a whim. I probably wouldn't have gotten much out of it if I read it as a teenager. Some of the scenarios in the book are still true today.
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