Atrocities in the Bible

[Cyberman]

No, not lacking exactly. Blinkered.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Here's some superstitious black magic spell mumbo-jumbo from the biblical sorcerer = 
Numbers 5:12=31 (KJV) = https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=KJV

How do those verses say anything about aborting a child. I'm still waiting on the verse about aborting a child.

GC

Well, with a swollen belly and a leg rotting off even you would be eager for an abortion.

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They were told by God not to look back, and she looked back.  I'm pretty sure it wasn't because God was trying to spare her from sin.

Here's a thing. The human body contains many salts, however presumably the bible passage here is referring to table salt, sodium chloride. If Lot's wife was reduced to salt, in the sense that her salt content was extracted Star Trek style, what would be left is enough salt to make a cube almost five centimetres per side - about seven tablespoons. Hardly a pillar.

Maybe, instead of her natural salt content being extracted, her bodymass was literally converted into sodium chloride? Well, even if that were possible - this is a vengeful god, after all - the energy released in the process would be ridiculous. I'm not a physicist, but even I have a healthy respect for e=mc²; we're talking Hiroshima times about a million here. How did our 'heroes' survive the blast, and how come the bible isn't telling that story? That would kick arse!

Oh wait - it's going to be midichlorians again, isn't it?

I think you have to look at the story from every angle.  Salt was used in religious rituals,  newborn babies were rubbed with salt to purify them.  Consider how Jesus referred to salt.  Compare and contrast the story with the one in Judges chapter 19 where the man cut up the woman into twelve pieces.  All of the stories are interrelated and must be considered together to fully understand them.

[Godscreated]

How do those verses say anything about aborting a child. I'm still waiting on the verse about aborting a child.

GC

See people? Fucking nailed it.

See what again I see nothing about abortion and that is what I've been addressing all along. Seems to me you've gotten happy over nothing.

GC

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How do those verses say anything about aborting a child. I'm still waiting on the verse about aborting a child.

GC

Well, with a swollen belly and a leg rotting off even you would be eager for an abortion.

The scriptures do not ever mention abortion, you guys need to get over this and try to apply your minds to better things.

GC

[The Grand Nudger]

So..what do you think that little narrative is discussing?  What is the bitter water that brings the curse? What is the curse? Why will she miscarry when drinking it as proof of her guilt and sin and shame? What, in your estimation....is being described? Why this ritual at all, when infidelity is suspected?

I've got a half dozen more when you're done with that one, btw...just the explicit, non poetic abortive motiffs..ofc. Better to be aborted than to be a sinner, better to be aborted than to be an unbeliever, better to be aborted than to not be born jewish, better to be aborted than to fail to destroy the enemies of the lord...you know, the usual.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

See people? Fucking nailed it.

See what again I see nothing about abortion and that is what I've been addressing all along. Seems to me you've gotten happy over nothing.

GC

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Well, with a swollen belly and a leg rotting off even you would be eager for an abortion.

The scriptures do not ever mention abortion, you guys need to get over this and try to apply your minds to better things.

GC

Remember Judah?  He was going to roast his daughter-in-law because she was pregnant.  Of course he found out that he was the daddy so he wimped out.

[GUBU]

They were told by God not to look back, and she looked back.  I'm pretty sure it wasn't because God was trying to spare her from sin.

Here's a thing. The human body contains many salts, however presumably the bible passage here is referring to table salt, sodium chloride. If Lot's wife was reduced to salt, in the sense that her salt content was extracted Star Trek style, what would be left is enough salt to make a cube almost five centimetres per side - about seven tablespoons. Hardly a pillar.

Maybe, instead of her natural salt content being extracted, her bodymass was literally converted into sodium chloride? Well, even if that were possible - this is a vengeful god, after all - the energy released in the process would be ridiculous. I'm not a physicist, but even I have a healthy respect for e=mc²; we're talking Hiroshima times about a million here. How did our 'heroes' survive the blast, and how come the bible isn't telling that story? That would kick arse!

Oh wait - it's going to be midichlorians again, isn't it?

10kg of mass being converted into energy is the equivalent of 19,294kt of released energy. That is 1,286 Little Boys or 919 Fat Men, the only two nuclear bombs used in wartime. And given the human body generally contains between seven and ten times ten kg, your estimate is a bit too high.

[Cyberman]

Well, there you go; I can always stand correction. Thanks for the calculations - they at least show that I wasn't underestimating with my hyperbole. Clearly the bible missed the most notable bit of the story, as usual.

[popsthebuilder]

The fundamental claim of christianity probably shouldn't strike you as a trick question.

You shouldn't paint a whole people with such a wide brush. Not all Christian's are traditional trinitarians.

peace

[The Grand Nudger]

Oh for fucks sake...lol.  Tell -them- that...they're the ones who got together and came up with their little creed aimed at excluding the heterodox.

[popsthebuilder]

hey, concubine !!!

pull yourself together !!!

An apologist might say the Levite was an evil man doing an evil thing, but the scripture says Lot is a just and righteous man right before he offers his daughter to be gang raped in place of angels (that he didn't know were angels.)

She was offered up in faith to GOD. He may not have known they were angels but he knew if the will of GOD and had faith in the word of GOD. Nothing happened to his daughter at that time.

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An apologist might say the Levite was an evil man doing an evil thing, but the scripture says Lot is a just and righteous man right before he offers his daughter to be gang raped in place of angels (that he didn't know were angels.)

That Lot character was the best of the lot in that town.  Remember, the real sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was that they didn't show hospitality to strangers (Ezekiel 16:49).  And once you extended hospitality you were obligated to defend your guest at all costs.  

The Lot story builds upon the Abraham story in Genesis chapter 18 where Abraham and Sarah extend hospitality to the three men. Afterwards those three men were going toward Sodom (Genesis 18:22).  

In Genesis chapter 19 the three men had been transformed into two angels.  Lot then takes them in.

There's a story in the Babylonian Talmud, which I can't find tight now, about a couple of towns that hated to take in guests.

There's a whole essay on how hospitality to strangers is comparable to worshiping God.  

The problem is that Gentile Christians want to adopt the ethnocentric Jewish fairy tale as their own but have zero interest in doing anything that it says they should do.

Again; one should at least reference such misdirection with a descriptor or defining term to show majority as opposed to a whole.

It teaches selflessness and faith regardless of what one might think they know within their own perspective.

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Oh for fucks sake...lol.  Tell -them- that...they're the ones who got together and came up with their little creed aimed at excluding the heterodox.

I do