Real world example of "I don't even know what I don't even know"

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

I'm colorblind and I also don't know which is which color. Essentially I don't even know what I don't even know.

[Thumpalumpacus]

That is the beginning of truly learning.

[Aegon]

Colors are an illusion, mannn

[Faith No More]

I'm colorblind, too. For all I know, people could be making shit up and having a laugh behind my back. One of my bucket list items is to try those glasses that supposedly fix it.

Non-colorblind people don't know how good they have it. Every time someone says to me, "Hand me that red one," I want to be like, "Woah, check your privelage, bro! Stop making me feel inferior and use descriptions everyone can see."

BTW, the worst part about being colorblind? Whenever someone finds out about it the first thing they do is ask you what color something is. Every. Fucking. Time.

[Aoi Magi]

hmmm, what color am I?

[emjay]

I'm colorblind and I also don't know which is which color. Essentially I don't even know what I don't even know.

Well one thing you could do... I don't know if it would help or not but it looks like it might... is, just as a fun experiment and maybe to be able to deduce something from it; most paint packages allow you to manipulate colours in the image by RGB value. So even if you can't see a particular colour... as in distinguish it from another... you could still set it by its value instead. Then you'd have something to work with in deducing what range of colours you can't see/distinguish. For instance if you took an average image and gradually removed the red component from the whole image... which you can do usually at the slide of a slider... would the two images look exactly the same? or if not... if you could perceive a difference in the images at some point, that might tell you something about the extent of the colourblindness. I don't know if this would work... it's just an idea... but it sounds reasonable enough and I'd like to try it myself to have an idea of how a colourblind person might see the world (ie an image with the red component removed) and maybe be able to settle a long standing, but friendly and jokey, dispute with my dad about the colour of a piece of furniture... I maintain he's colourblind, he maintains I am but if this works, maybe it could prove it one way or the other by who perceives a difference in the colours or not, with the RGB values to prove they're different.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Would that method replace the red, for instance, with grey, as I assume the colorblind brain does?

[Aristocatt]

I'm colorblind, too.  For all I know, people could be making shit up and having a laugh behind my back.  One of my bucket list items is to try those glasses that supposedly fix it.

Non-colorblind people don't know how good they have it.  Every time someone says to me, "Hand me that red one," I want to be like, "Woah, check your privelage, bro!  Stop making me feel inferior and use descriptions everyone can see."

BTW, the worst part about being colorblind?  Whenever someone finds out about it the first thing they do is ask you what color something is.  Every.  Fucking.  Time.

Interestingly the best part about not being colorblind is getting to smugly ask a colorblind person what color different objects are.
Sorry...I had to.

[emjay]

Would that method replace the red, for instance, with grey, as I assume the colorblind brain does?

I don't know. The only two people I know who are colourblind have exactly the same problem; they can't tell brown and green apart so whenever we play or watch Snooker, they can't tell those two balls apart. I can't remember if they also have difficulty with the red balls... maybe. So assuming brown has quite a lot of red in it and it appears as green, I'm not sure about the greyness you suggest. I'm curious too... in a worst case scenario where someone had no red-sensitive cones at all... only green and blue... so total red colour blindness... what would they perceive on an image with three bars, like the French flag but different colours; of pure red, green, and blue... would the red bar be blank/grey/black or one of the other colours? No idea.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Yeah, I'm admittedly ignorant of color-blindness. I'd be interested in hearing what anyone more knowledgeable would have to say.