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A rational explanation for hell?
RE: A rational explanation for hell?
(August 17, 2011 at 10:27 pm)C Rod Wrote:
(August 15, 2011 at 5:41 pm)I_Blaspheme Wrote:
(August 14, 2011 at 9:13 pm)C Rod Wrote: We see death and we see that it is final. But i want to know what the experience is like, the actual death.

There's only one way for you to find out, CRod. Only one.

I had something else to say here, but I promised myself I'd be nice today.
So is it a mystery? That moment of death.

Drop the hammer and find out.

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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
(August 18, 2011 at 11:47 am)Rhythm Wrote: I can't help but try and explain this to you again. CRod, there is nothing to suggest to us that our ability to "experience" things isn't a function of our biological systems. When you die, they cease to function. That makes the idea of "experiencing death" a strange one doesn't it? What we can reliably refer to as the experience of death, is the dying process, which has been well documented, and if you need support in this area I have a link for you.

http://dying.about.com/od/thedyingprocess/a/process.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness

There you go, let wonder lead you to knowledge.

"they cease to function" shall i be told what that is like?
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart
"You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
Rephrase as a coherent question?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
(August 18, 2011 at 8:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Rephrase as a coherent question?
Your like a teacher, thank you.

When the biological functions allow me to experience, is there a description of the experience when the cease? BetterUndecided
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart
"You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
You keep asking the same question as though it hadn't been answered before CRod. Without the functions of your sensory systems, including your brain itself, you don't experience anything. There is no description because there is no experience. All descriptions of death are either from before the moment of death (from the dyings point of view) or after the moment of death (from an observers point of view). A person may say "I am dying". A seperate person may point to that person and say "he is dead", but the dead have a tendency not to sit up after death and say "I am dead".
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
Nothing cannot be ... Rephrase again, please.
Trying to update my sig ...
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
(August 18, 2011 at 9:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You keep asking the same question as though it hadn't been answered before CRod. Without the functions of your sensory systems, including your brain itself, you don't experience anything. There is no description because there is no experience. All descriptions of death are either from before the moment of death (from the dyings point of view) or after the moment of death (from an observers point of view). A person may say "I am dying". A seperate person may point to that person and say "he is dead", but the dead have a tendency not to sit up after death and say "I am dead".

"you don't experience anything"

What is it like to not experience anything?
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart
"You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
What is it like to not clap?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
(August 18, 2011 at 9:18 pm)C Rod Wrote: "you don't experience anything"

What is it like to not experience anything?

It's like nothing you can fail to imagine!
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
(August 18, 2011 at 9:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What is it like to not clap?

Was being obtuse, sorry.

"There is no description because there is no experience." If the moment has no description and is not an experience, did it even happen?
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart
"You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane
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