Where the fuck are these people?

[Thumpalumpacus]

Where

In the Rioters Beware thread. Basically she denied being alt-right, and Thump brought up a post where she invited another member to join the BNP, a far right UK group. In fairness I seem to recall that she did admit that she was in the wrong about that but don't remember which thread that was in, and the search function on tapatalk is beyond shit. Also in fairness I also didn't think it was particularly relevant to the Rioters Beware thread, but since what she posted on topic was pretty outrageous anyway, I wasn't too inclined to rush to her defence.

Finally, FWIW I wouldn't call it a ragequit, don't know if she has actually quit and I actually think it would be a shame if she has, I did see signs that she was capable of re-evaluating her position on things, unlike many of the other far right assholes here

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Immediately after I posted a rebuttal to her claim that she'd never mentioned BNP showing conclusively that she had, she posted in CIJS that she was tired of all this crap ... and that's the last I read of her.

"Ragequit" is, to be fair, probably inaccurate. Perhaps "shamequit" is a better fit.

[paulpablo]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it the case that no one knows what was said in IMs between RobertE and Bella.

Or did Bella invite Robert to join the BNP on the forum?

I was under the impression that all that's been shown conclusively is that RobertE said Bella said she hoped Robert had joined the BNP.  There was no post where Bella invited Robert to join.

It wouldn't really make sense for someone to ask someone living in France to join the BNP since it's the British National party and I thought that was where Robert Lived.

[Catholic_Lady]

In the Rioters Beware thread. Basically she denied being alt-right, and Thump brought up a post where she invited another member to join the BNP, a far right UK group. In fairness I seem to recall that she did admit that she was in the wrong about that but don't remember which thread that was in, and the search function on tapatalk is beyond shit. Also in fairness I also didn't think it was particularly relevant to the Rioters Beware thread, but since what she posted on topic was pretty outrageous anyway, I wasn't too inclined to rush to her defence.

Finally, FWIW I wouldn't call it a ragequit,  don't know if she has actually quit and I actually think it would be a shame if she has, I did see signs that she was capable of re-evaluating her position on things, unlike many of the other far right assholes here

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Immediately after I posted a rebuttal to her claim that she'd never mentioned BNP showing conclusively that she had, she posted in CIJS that she was tired of all this crap ... and that's the last I read of her.

"Ragequit" is, to be fair, probably inaccurate. Perhaps "shamequit" is a better fit.

What is cijs?

[Thumpalumpacus]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it the case that no one knows what was said in IMs between RobertE and Bella.

Or did Bella invite Robert to join the BNP on the forum?

I was under the impression that all that's been shown conclusively is that RobertE said Bella said she hoped Robert had joined the BNP.  There was no post where Bella invited Robert to join.

It wouldn't really make sense for someone to ask someone living in France to join the BNP since it's the British National party and I thought that was where Robert Lived.

Robert made it plain in a public post that she'd done so. I quoted that and her reply back to him.

I'd say the two of them knew what was in that PM, and neither argued that BNP wasn't mentioned.

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Added: here's the exchange:

BNP and the UK's version of National Front (same name, entirely different group) were never mentioned and I definitely do not support those people at all. Thanks for spreading lies though.

Hey, speaking of lies --

I don't even know why you respond to me. You do realise as to why I won't even acknowledge your pm about wanting me to support the BNP don't you? I don't associate myself with any political party so, let alone the British National Party/EDL/NF or whatever party you are a part of.

[Emphasis added by Thump]

I can't say I blame you for being ashamed of your neofascism. I'd be, uh, mortified if people realized I were a far-right cunt too.

Remember, kid -- unless a thread is deleted, everything stays in the archives, and some of us have read and remembered your horseshit. You do not get to revise your views without acknowledgment.  

@CL: CIJS is the "Can I Just Say" thread.

[paulpablo]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it the case that no one knows what was said in IMs between RobertE and Bella.

Or did Bella invite Robert to join the BNP on the forum?

I was under the impression that all that's been shown conclusively is that RobertE said Bella said she hoped Robert had joined the BNP.  There was no post where Bella invited Robert to join.

It wouldn't really make sense for someone to ask someone living in France to join the BNP since it's the British National party and I thought that was where Robert Lived.

Robert made it plain in a public post that she'd done so. I quoted that and her reply back to him.

I'd say the two of them knew what was in that PM, and neither argued that BNP wasn't mentioned.

So the proof is that RobertE said Bella asked him if he'd joined the BNP then she said it was based on a misunderstanding.

Just as far as I'm aware at least, there's no post where Bella said anything like that conclusively proves support of the BNP.

 I wouldn't be surprised if there was, I don't know much detail about Bella's politics though.

Conclusive proof would be a post from Bella, but all there is to show is the post of a banned troll and Bella's reponse which is to say there was a misunderstanding, no hard feelings and a smiley face, which is quite vague.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Robert made it plain in a public post that she'd done so. I quoted that and her reply back to him.

I'd say the two of them knew what was in that PM, and neither argued that BNP wasn't mentioned.

So the proof is that RobertE said Bella asked him if he'd joined the BNP then she said it was based on a misunderstanding.

Just as far as I'm aware at least, there's no post where Bella said anything like that conclusively proves support of the BNP.

 I wouldn't be surprised if there was, I don't know much detail about Bella's politics though.

Conclusive proof would be a post from Bella, but all there is to show is the post of a banned troll and Bella's reponse which is to say there was a misunderstanding, no hard feelings and a smiley face, which is quite vague.

And no argument from Bella about PMing about BNP, right. I think you forgot that part.

If someone accused me of doing something I didn't do, I'd rip them a new one.

I think I know a bit more about her politics than do you, having had many discussions with her about various and sundry issues, and I stand by my words.

[Huggy Bear]

I'm side eyeing you right now Thump...

[paulpablo]

So the conclusive proof that we have is based on what RobertE said and what Bella didn't say.

[Huggy Bear]

[paulpablo]

So from what I can tell the proof is that RobertE (Who's a banned troll) said Bella sent a private message to him about the BNP and then Bella said it was a misunderstanding followed by saying she definitely doesn't support the BNP.

In my opinion you'd have to be blind to not thing Bella leans heavily right wing but I don't see conclusive evidence that she supports the BNP.

Not evidence that would stand up in court anyway, it's basically heresay and loosely connecting the dots to where her saying she doesn't support the BNP is her admitting she was talking about British politics and therefore she definitely supports the BNP which seems like faulty logic at least to me.

Anyway, I'm not Bella's representative and it's a small issue for me to give a fuck about.