Noam Chomsky: Trump-Russia story is 'a joke.'

[LastPoet]

Fact: The US elected truly an idiot.

Alternate fact: best choice ever.

We shall see. My president is cool and probably will nag citizens for a selfie.

#partofthoseportuguesethatneverhadaselfiewiththepresident.

[dyresand]

Fact: The US elected truly an idiot.

Alternate fact: best choice ever.

We shall see. My president is cool and probably will nag citizens for a selfie.

#partofthoseportuguesethatneverhadaselfiewiththepresident.

we elect the losers if said person wins popular vote the loser takes the win or you know
the rare case of Obama where he was liked.

[Mystical]

Fact: The US elected truly an idiot.

Alternate fact: best choice ever.

We shall see. My president is cool and probably will nag citizens for a selfie.

#partofthoseportuguesethatneverhadaselfiewiththepresident.

we elect the losers if said person wins popular vote the loser takes the win or you know
the rare case of Obama where he was liked.

Does my post not warrant a response then? I know there were some typos, but it was the middle of the night..

[dyresand]

at this point this is the reality of the situation we have the left angry that a certain someone lost of trump.
the point is this same party is so weak and pathetic it effectively continues to kill itself with their actions while at the same time
dragging a progressive across the US on a unity tour. but they don't stop and look at the fact they pushed a person who is universally hated
on both sides for many many reasons. this is all to cover up the fact she out spent trump and wasted all that money and in reality this whole
trump and russia story is to make us look away from the fact that there is corruption at the highest level in government. it's already apparent with the
clinton crowed the wikileaks and other leaked material and with that you can argue your basis against her and anyone really in the obama team.
again they are calling for war against russia on a false pretense they got caught and americans learned the truth. So yeah um.. that's pretty much the reason.

underline by moi :

I was following you up till this underlined bit. Can you elaborate please? 

Also what false pretense to war is it you're speaking of? The Espionage Act or the Foreign Agents Act?

Quoting his mainstream most well known antics in public forum (not even mentioning what's gone on behind closed doors or by his hand with his handy foreign agents in charge)  he has: 

A. Incited a foreign power (a very unfriendly one at that) to interfere with local elections or wage cyber warfare on his own country. 

B. Undermining democracy by Denigrating the findings of our foreign intelligence and protection agencies (the CIA and FBI) by disckunting and counteracting their intel about Russia who without a doubt was involved in hacking both our domestic political parties communications during an election.

3. Donald J Trump publically made foreign policy commentary that gave aid or comfort to Russia as president elect. On world broadcast. You can't fucking do that. Only the President is allowed to make official foreign policy towards other nations, and in fact his actions were undermining the current presidents' stance on foreign policy.

the Logan Act, which states that any citizen of the United States who corresponds with a foreign government with an intent to “influence measures” in relation to any disputes or controversies within the United States may be fined or imprisoned.

A for those unsure why good relations with Russia is even tangible, I mean.. What the fuck?

For those who want to know what America will be like if Trump slides by unscathed after performing innumerable acts of treason? Read this article. It shows you what society is like (in Russia) when you can no longer trust in the Sanctity of any agency.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/201...erica.html

Yes I did a. B. 3. To make u laugh. This is serious shit, sometimes u just gotta laugh!

I didn't word it clearly what i meant to say was when you look at Hillary at face value the leaks proved she has a private and a personal face. 
Like when the whole incident with the Benghazi attacks. We were told that it was a internet video which sparked the attack we were sold that
in reality of the situation even congress called her out on it she new ahead of time that the attack on Benghazi was going to happen they were given 
the information ahead of time. This and not to mention BLM look at the email leaks she was going to be meet them and again that her public face in reality of the situation 
she was not going to do any substantive change or even work with them. All in all either or both people are complete sacks of shit just one happens to just lie in your face and smiles a lot while taking corporate money while keeping things they way they are. Honestly at this point i wish Hillary would have won at least progressives would have pushed her for actual change instead of having to fight the already dead democratic party.

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Fact: The US elected truly an idiot.

Alternate fact: best choice ever.

We shall see. My president is cool and probably will nag citizens for a selfie.

#partofthoseportuguesethatneverhadaselfiewiththepresident.

Fun fact peoples votes don't matter
the electoral system itself doesn't count peoples votes like everyone thinks it does.
the only votes that matter are the electoral votes from the electoral college are the only ones that does matter.
Say you got a person who won a popular vote but lost to someone they were against that's because they didn't
get enough electoral votes. Our system is pretty fucked up like that honestly id love to wake up right now 
and Hillary be president but this is reality.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Holy crap, you're just learning that politicians are two-faced?

[Mystical]

Far be it for me to defend Madame Tousseau in human flesh, but I do believe that's a new one to me! Hillary Clinton was called out by Congress, for knowing that the Benghazi attack was going to happen, before it happened???! 

.. in reality this whole trump and russia story is to make us look away from the fact that there is corruption at the highest level in government.

Are you implying that the establishment sold out the establishment, and is trying to hide this fact with scandalous news of Trump and Russia? It's kind of a confirmed thing, you know? By multiple sources. So why would the establishment go through so much trouble, to frame Roger Rump? 

If anything the establishment has been complicit. But that's only because they had no choice. They lost. But being the forever opportunists that they are-- be damned the party, they still found a way to win. Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan are embodiments of the establishments' agenda, after all. And the only reason Trump has lasted in office this long. They can arrest hI'm for self incrimination any time. The question is.. will he play ball with them like Hillary would've? My gut says yes (just with more grandstanding and incompetence), while simultaneously waning to throw up at the idea of dealing with 4yrs of Trump. Or even 2. Or one. 

Good thing I might not have to though, thanks to President Drumpf's repeated jabs with sticks into the pudgy eyes and belly of North Korea's god incarnate, huh? I truly think Trump is legit jealous that so many people (without being paid) profess to love their holy leader so fervently! Here in the US he's a permanent hacky sack of the American people on Saturday night. He had hoped that being President would stop that, but.. it didn't. X)

Course, I don't claim to know shit about politics. These are just conclusions I've drawn from legitimate sources of all sides of the issue. Despite my die hard progressive heart, I do try to be as bipartisan as I can!

[dyresand]

Holy crap, you're just learning that politicians are two-faced?

No most politicians are sacks of shit and are two faced lairs. 
And the hate the rich are getting is completely justified they should be putting more into our country rather than pocketing and punching down.
But again 2018 a lot of those assholes are going to be kissing our asses that is when we turn our backs and say fuck you and vote for anyone else
and progressives. getting them out of power is a start and is our only hope to have our voice heard as a country because again we say end the drug war
they say keep it going. The point is the same people who say we cant afford it love throwing money into a war that is purely a waste of human lives and military resources.
we can afford healthcare, free college, etc we just dont do it because we get lied to and our military spending is too damn high.
id only agree with that type of spending if we were in a probable third world war but i don't currently we can cut it in half and still spend more than the world.

[Thumpalumpacus]

They will say whatever they think will get your vote ... then they will turn around and sell their own.

[dyresand]

They will say whatever they think will get your vote ... then they will turn around and sell their own.

We have crossed a point where they can't do that anymore. A lot of people and their own voter base is out for blood this 2018 look at what happened to Feinstien 
then you look at everyone else who they fucked over they have essentially fucked up so badly they won't be in power any longer. Same goes for Nancy Pelosi everyone hates her
after what she said. Simply put we know they lie and they don't care at this point they can't use well were better than republicans well no they are republicans if anything the rise 
of progressives is actually going to happen because of how shit they are. All in all Bernie proved you don't need corporatist ties or big money donors get get a voter base behind you.
Even a deep red state can flip and turn blue with the right person running and with the right mindset and goals this whole country over night in reality can turn blue. Everyone want's free college, healthcare, a living wage,  more war, all someone has to do is raise those points they will get people behind them. Even at a governor level you can do 3 of those things in any specific order except for war because the state can give you free healthcare, college and a living wage.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Money talks and voters walk. Turnout over the last five decades shows as much.