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Noam Chomsky: Trump-Russia story is 'a joke.'
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RE: Noam Chomsky: Trump-Russia story is 'a joke.'
April 25, 2017 at 1:14 am
(April 23, 2017 at 10:09 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Money talks and voters walk. Turnout over the last five decades shows as much.

Yes, but have so many voters walked before? 

I truly want to know the process by which Bill O'Reilly was impeached from fox. What big money players made threats, how did the avalanche begin, was it rooted in consumer spending and if so can we replicate it hugely and oust Trump?
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RE: Noam Chomsky: Trump-Russia story is 'a joke.'
April 25, 2017 at 9:26 am
The President doesn't rely on ad revenue. And the people who voted for him knew he was a pussy-grabber.

O'Reilly's show was only useful to Fox insofar as it generated income. With 50+ companies pulling their ad buys, that's a quickly-drying revenue stream. Because those 50+ companies relied on consumers, they were susceptible to consumer demand. If you wanted to reproduce the same course of events with Trump, you'd have to find leverage over the bankers and Wall St honchos who are his masters.

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RE: Noam Chomsky: Trump-Russia story is 'a joke.'
April 25, 2017 at 9:32 am (This post was last modified: April 25, 2017 at 9:41 am by Isis.)
(April 25, 2017 at 9:26 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: [..]

If you wanted to reproduce the same course of events with Trump, you'd have to find leverage over the bankers and Wall St honchos who are his masters.

I think that applies to almost every recent President, to be honest.
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RE: Noam Chomsky: Trump-Russia story is 'a joke.'
April 25, 2017 at 9:48 am
Sure, I wasn't meaning to single him out, simply addressing her point in the narrow context.

The same point about bankers owning Presidents is equally valid with many if not most Congress members, as well.

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RE: Noam Chomsky: Trump-Russia story is 'a joke.'
April 25, 2017 at 10:05 am
(April 25, 2017 at 9:48 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Sure, I wasn't meaning to single him out, simply addressing her point in the narrow context.

The same point about bankers owning Presidents is equally valid with many if not most Congress members, as well.

Yeah, I understood what you meant. I wasn't excusing Trump for being a slave to bankers and lobbyists either, it's just important to remember that every politician is at it in one way or another. Damn shame, really - about time that you guys took money out of politics.
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RE: Noam Chomsky: Trump-Russia story is 'a joke.'
April 25, 2017 at 10:08 am
Indeed ... this is why Citizens United was such a horrific decision. It cemented the business class' ownership of the political class.

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RE: Noam Chomsky: Trump-Russia story is 'a joke.'
April 25, 2017 at 10:16 am
Having a good relationship is fine. Colluding to rig elections (allegedly) and influence American politics is not.
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