Our theists of all labels please answer....

[WinterHold]

When you reach the stage where you think of humans as pollution, you need locking away.

Many are pollution. This world could've been something else.

I'm just seeing beyond the smokescreen. It's not hard: everybody can see the backstage. 
Few are worth it, many don't worth a minute of attention.

[Brian37]

I need certain answers that can only exist in the Quran.

I do believe that the Quran has the right answer to everything; and also offers a pathway to God, away from what you referred to with "clubs"; away from human pollution.

Not the question. 

"Why do you feel the need" 


Is it because you have independent peer review or is it because someone else introduced it to you before you were exposed to a larger neutral sample you could compare to?

Yes I get that you believe the Quran has the right answers, but that is still your subjective, opinion.

Christians believe the Bible has the right answers.
Jews believe the OT has the right answers.
Buddhists believe Buddha has the right answers.
Hindus believe the Baghavad Gita and Vedas have the right answers.

With all those completing claims what do humans have that is neutral to verify a claim? 

You believe and? CL believes in the Jesus of the Bible and? Buddhists follow Buddha and? Jews follow the Torah and Talmud and OT  and?

[Athene]

First all these religions are true in the sense most of what they teach is accurate including Hinduism. They just took different angles and emphasized on different things the Prophets and Guides of theirs emphasized on.

The question is on how to tell the truth from falsehood? Is this the question.

Because you were first asking for what motivates me, and that is a different question.

The way to know is by sharpening your reflection which is like sword you have to both attack by to reach truth and repel falsehood by. There is no other way.

I've talked about how with honesty reflection becomes a means of distinguishing truth from falsehood.

Now if you want to ask what my various reflections are that have lead me to path I am on, that is different.

I believe in the case of Catholic_Lady, and I mean no offense, but from the church clergy structure to the trinity to other things,  she has not sharpened her sword and fought for the truth to distinguished truth from falsehood.

Does this mean I believe she isn't a submitter to the truth or lover of the truth or lover of God or believer of God or actually on the wrong path and hence deviated from human nature which is the true religion? No, we all at our own levels. I don't know the level of sincerity she has but she seems genuine to me.

Just needs to sharpen her sword and take the battle for truth up a notch is all.

Oh, sure...'Cause the gobbleygook MK sucks up is the Really, Really, Real Deal.
Ha, ha....So, say ALL you motherfuckers.

Got anything BESIDES your stupid feelings/dumb-ass poetry, that justifies your claiming ultimate supremacy and "truthiness" over CL's brand of Catholic Voodoo?

[WinterHold]

Hey hey hey it's not the day of Ashura yet!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ndson.html

I thought you blocked me?

Sadly there is no block!
There is "ignore".

I "ignored" you because you're a spam.

But then I refreshed the topic and clicked "show" next to your comment; because I remembered you, which is a painful memory.

One thing led to another...
Saw your sword comment.

Remembered this link:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ndson.html

And that's it!

[Mystic]

Brian, people are hasty and they seek answers. We all know that. People are hasty and they want all the answers in their plate by authority figures rather then perceiving insights and knowing themselves.

Does it mean it is impossible to come to the truth? No.

It means there is easy barrier, because we are hasty creatures, looking for the end of the signs before God showing us the signs.

What is the wisdom, it is the the wise, what is the love, it is the beloved, and what is the sight of proofs, it is the light, what is knowledge, it is the known, the quicker you realize this, that what you are trying to separate the value from the source of value, perception from light, the quicker you will realize the journey to truth is not difficult if we strive with genuine love and courage.

The cure to every human is in themselves but they don't perceive. The Quran is a cure only because it manifests the signs in the self.

[Brian37]

When you reach the stage where you think of humans as pollution, you need locking away.

Many are pollution. This world could've been something else.

I'm just seeing beyond the smokescreen. It's not hard: everybody can see the backstage. 
Few are worth it, many don't worth a minute of attention.

Wow, that is a frightening statement. I hope you don't think of your species as trash.

I wouldn't put it like that. I might find some individuals as being so violent they are worthy of containment and defending oneself from sure. But I don't think my entire species is mostly garbage. I certainly see lots of compassion in human history worldwide and even now. I don't have to like my species bad logic, but I do see my species as being worthy enough to question and challenge in hopes we can see ourselves as more the same than different.

There are certainly evil individuals but my species certainly isn't mostly bad.

[Mystic]

Oh, sure...'Cause the gobbleygook MK sucks up is the Really, Really, Real Deal.
Ha, ha....So, say ALL you motherfuckers.

Got anything BESIDES your stupid feelings/dumb-ass poetry, that justifies your claiming ultimate supremacy and "truthiness" over CL's brand of Catholic Voodoo?

I have a lot of evidence. A lot that I have not shown. But let me know when you are interested. Every thread that I begin to talk about a bit of these proofs, people, spiral out of control to demanding proof for God in the first place.

[Brian37]

We've seen both MK and Atlas our resident Muslims respond, and Catholic Lady, need more balance, how about say maybe SteeveII or Roadrunner or Neo or Lek or Rik.

The point of this thread is to get diverse voices in the same thread to start at the OP read the questions to yourself first before responding, then read every response, not just counter me because I am an atheist. I want to see Muslims responding to Christians and Christians responding to Muslims, and Buddhist if we have any here, or those who like it even as a "philosophy".

Don't make this just about responding to atheists. You all have claims you make, you need to bounce your claims off of others not just atheists.

[WinterHold]

Many are pollution. This world could've been something else.

I'm just seeing beyond the smokescreen. It's not hard: everybody can see the backstage. 
Few are worth it, many don't worth a minute of attention.

Wow, that is a frightening statement. I hope you don't think of your species as trash.

I wouldn't put it like that. I might find some individuals as being so violent they are worthy of containment and defending oneself from sure. But I don't think my entire species is mostly garbage. I certainly see lots of compassion in human history worldwide and even now. I don't have to like my species bad logic, but I do see my species as being worthy enough to question and challenge in hopes we can see ourselves as more the same than different.

There are certainly evil individuals but my species certainly isn't mostly bad.

No; I didn't generalize on everybody and it can be seen in my comment here:

Few are worth it, many don't worth a minute of attention.

It means most are bad, few are good, Brian.

If most were good, our world would be something else. 
I think the frightening statement is saying that most are good. Because right there, logic falls to explain the wars, the death, the torture, that ate humanity and left so many wondering.

If most are good, then why are there still atomic weapons? and so many different cults?

[Minimalist]

I still think its the hats.



These fuckers will do anything for a guy in a silly hat.