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(January 14, 2016 at 7:59 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: In the next world, inshallah, I will be a youth with beautiful pure wives. This world doesn't last anyways and even if it was forever, it's not a worth a single sin and disobedience to God [The Exalted and Majestic].
Why does this post make me feel disgusting. Like I need to throw up. Why do you feel that beautiful pure women deserve to be imprisoned to you?
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January 14, 2016 at 8:27 pm
(January 14, 2016 at 8:25 pm)Losty Wrote: (January 14, 2016 at 7:59 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: In the next world, inshallah, I will be a youth with beautiful pure wives. This world doesn't last anyways and even if it was forever, it's not a worth a single sin and disobedience to God [The Exalted and Majestic].
Why doesn't this post make me feel disgusting. Like I need to throw up. Why do you feel that beautiful pure women deserve to be imprisoned to you?
Imprisoned to me? Inshallah God will make deserving of them.
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January 14, 2016 at 8:27 pm
(January 14, 2016 at 7:59 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: In the next world, inshallah, I will be a youth with beautiful pure wives. This world doesn't last anyways and even if it was forever, it's not a worth a single sin and disobedience to God [The Exalted and Majestic].
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January 14, 2016 at 8:32 pm
Do you really believe that MK? I could have sworn another Muslim told me this whole thing about virgins in Heaven was a more extremist view, rather than a mainstream one.
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January 14, 2016 at 8:34 pm
(January 14, 2016 at 8:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Do you really believe that MK? I could have sworn another Muslim told me this whole thing about virgins in Heaven was a more extremist view, rather than a mainstream one.
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January 14, 2016 at 8:42 pm
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(January 14, 2016 at 8:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Do you really believe that MK? I could have sworn another Muslim told me this whole thing about virgins in Heaven was a more extremist view, rather than a mainstream one. I would have to see what he has to say about all the verses in Quran regarding this. If it's the raisin interpretation...then I don't really appreciate that one and it has no basis. There are verses that mention pure wives (not houris, other virgins, so they all interpret each other).
These houris were chosen by God to not be tested in this world and are of high purity. So we have to do quite a bit to become deserving of them and they are not all the same rank like Angels are not the same rank and have different levels of purity intensity, so the higher the rank we get, the higher rank will the houris be. Not all humans who enter paradise will earn them from my understanding but rather the believers that follow the light of God and that of his guidance or the Guides will become worthy of them. The people who were neither on the straight path (or the people of the right hand) nor on the evil path, but God forgives them due to not having reached the power to reject or accept faith, I'm not sure if they get Houris or not.
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January 14, 2016 at 8:49 pm
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(January 14, 2016 at 8:42 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (January 14, 2016 at 8:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Do you really believe that MK? I could have sworn another Muslim told me this whole thing about virgins in Heaven was a more extremist view, rather than a mainstream one. I would have to see what he has to say about all the verses in Quran regarding this. If it's the raisin interpretation...then I don't really appreciate that one and it has no basis. There are verses that mention pure wives (not houris, other virgins, so they all interpret each other).
These houris were chosen by God to not be tested in this world and are of high purity. So we have to do quite a bit to become deserving of them and they are not all the same rank like Angels are not the same rank and have different levels of purity intensity, so the higher the rank we get, the higher rank will the houris be. Not all humans who enter paradise will earn them from my understanding but rather the believers that follow the light of God and that of his guidance or the Guides will become worthy of them. The people who were neither on the straight path (or the people of the right hand) nor on the evil path, but God forgives them due to not having reached the power to reject or accept faith, I'm not sure if they get Houris or not.
Could it be possible to take an allegorical interpretation of this?
Perhaps it doesn't literally mean you'll be having sex with a bunch of virgins, but rather, simply means that you will find complete fulfillment and ecstasy simply by being so close to God?
(Also, are the women who die also promised a bunch of virgin men? Just curious.)
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January 14, 2016 at 8:49 pm
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
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January 14, 2016 at 8:51 pm
Hey MK, what if your 72 virgins turned out to be male?
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January 14, 2016 at 9:04 pm
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(January 14, 2016 at 8:49 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Could it be possible to take an allegorical interpretation of this? I doubt it can be.
Quote:Perhaps it doesn't literally mean you'll be having sex with a bunch of virgins, but rather, simply means that you will find complete fulfillment and ecstasy simply be being so close to God?
I think they will be manifestations of God's beauty and glory, and their holy souls, being pure, is emphasized to be pure, precisely because relationship to such pure beings is spiritual.
Quote:(Also, are the women who die also promised a bunch of virgin men? Just curious.)
It is silent over it. It didn't say they won't, it didn't they say they will. So I have to remain silent over it as well.
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