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Why are there more crazies these days?
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RE: Why are there more crazies these days?
(May 31, 2017 at 10:27 pm)JamieB Wrote: Crazy is everywhere
1 in 5 people deal with depression. 1 in 15 have a more serious mental illness like schizophrenia or Bi-polar. Thanks to the fact that our mental care sucks in the US  these people go untreated and do some fucked up shit.  
Also, the stigma that goes with these diseases is great so people often go undiagnosed.

And then there's people like me: a good kind of crazy! Big Grin
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RE: Why are there more crazies these days?
(June 1, 2017 at 1:35 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: Right, but if the sickness were anywhere but the brain I doubt either would be acceptable.

There's an odd idea that mental illness is not a physical, bodily disease.

I somewhat disagree. Diagnosing and treating mental illness is different from physical illness for multiple reasons.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: Why are there more crazies these days?
(June 1, 2017 at 3:02 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(June 1, 2017 at 1:35 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: Right, but if the sickness were anywhere but the brain I doubt either would be acceptable.

There's an odd idea that mental illness is not a physical, bodily disease.

I somewhat disagree. Diagnosing and treating mental illness is different from physical illness for multiple reasons.
I'm not talking about diagnosing and treating them. What I mean is
it's treated like a whole different thing and if pubbies get there way again won't be covered equally under insurance. There's less access to treatment because of stigma and because it's treated as if the brain is...I don't know how else to describe it.

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RE: Why are there more crazies these days?
(June 1, 2017 at 3:11 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote:
(June 1, 2017 at 3:02 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I somewhat disagree. Diagnosing and treating mental illness is different from physical illness for multiple reasons.
I'm not talking about diagnosing and treating them. What I mean is
it's treated like a whole different thing and if pubbies get there way again won't be covered equally under insurance. There's less access to treatment because of stigma and because it's treated as if the brain is...I don't know how else to describe it.

That's kind of the point, it's pretty much is a whole different thing. 

Just so you know, I think that mental health treatment has a deficiency problems. Under the dems also.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: Why are there more crazies these days?
(June 1, 2017 at 12:30 am)Bunburryist Wrote: Technology provides opportunities to behave anonymously that never existed before.  It also makes it easier to interact with people who don't know you and will never know you.  

The internet also provides both many examples of how to be weird (that probably would never occur to the average person otherwise), and through constant exposure hardens us to behavior that fifty years ago (when married couples in TV had to have separate beds) would have shocked even the most jaded of people.  As for terrorist groups enticing members - before cable - when in most places there were maybe 5 major channels on TV - there simply was no way for wacko groups to have a chance to entice you into anything without walking up to you and handing you a pamphlet.  Isis would have been inconceivable fifty years ago.  The average terrorist group had a handful of people, or maybe in the tens.  Travel is a lot easier now as well.  And not just in the practical sense.  People think much more "long distance" than they used to.  1965 and you want to talk to your fellow Jihadi if Kabul? Well, long distance cost like, I don't know, maybe $15 a minute.  And that was when you could buy a candy bar for a dime.  I know this makes me sound old, and this is the kind of stuff my parents used to say, but young people today really can't imagine what it was like fifty years ago.

Something like ISIS isn't actually all that hard to envisage in a pre-internet world. Look, for example the following the IRB, and later the IRA, had in North America in the second half of the 19th and early 20th century. Without the millions of dollars pouring in from the US (and to a lesser extent Canada), the Republican movement wouldn't have survived the Young Ireland rebellion of 1848, never mind stage the 1867 and 1916 risings, nor the eventually successful War of Independence.
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