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The empathy factor
#21
RE: The empathy factor
"Hipster is what happens when young hot people do what old ladies do." -Exian
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#22
RE: The empathy factor
(June 8, 2017 at 2:43 am)J a c k Wrote:
(June 7, 2017 at 4:18 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I'm not sure there is any "science" to find, at least not what I consider science. What do you think that science might be?

No science to find? Hmmm I can think of some. How about psychology? Neurology? Even biology? What about the science behind my medication? Behind the understanding of genes? I don't know, but it seems to me there are so many possibilities when you don't understand something. You start from scratch and find so many places to look. I'm open to them. I'm looking for something deeper that a simple "suck it up" instruction from a self help book. I want the why and how of it. I want to understand it. This isn't a habit to kill. It's something stronger than that.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...2816303321

http://ir.uiowa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?...ontext=etd

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventromedi...tal_cortex

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3999437/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2729461/

Unfortunately there are more studies looking at lack of empathy than hyper empathy.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#23
RE: The empathy factor
(June 8, 2017 at 9:54 am)mh.brewer Wrote:
(June 8, 2017 at 2:43 am)J a c k Wrote: No science to find? Hmmm I can think of some. How about psychology? Neurology? Even biology? What about the science behind my medication? Behind the understanding of genes? I don't know, but it seems to me there are so many possibilities when you don't understand something. You start from scratch and find so many places to look. I'm open to them. I'm looking for something deeper that a simple "suck it up" instruction from a self help book. I want the why and how of it. I want to understand it. This isn't a habit to kill. It's something stronger than that.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...2816303321

http://ir.uiowa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?...ontext=etd

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventromedi...tal_cortex

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3999437/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2729461/

Unfortunately there are more studies looking at lack of empathy than hyper empathy.

Awwww thank you, Brewer. Heart
I'll check it out after work. Smile
"Hipster is what happens when young hot people do what old ladies do." -Exian
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#24
RE: The empathy factor
(June 8, 2017 at 12:50 pm)J a c k Wrote:
(June 8, 2017 at 9:54 am)mh.brewer Wrote: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...2816303321

http://ir.uiowa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?...ontext=etd

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventromedi...tal_cortex

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3999437/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2729461/

Unfortunately there are more studies looking at lack of empathy than hyper empathy.

Awwww thank you, Brewer.  Heart
I'll check it out after work. Smile

If you can get through and absorb this in one night you're a better man than I am.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#25
RE: The empathy factor
(June 8, 2017 at 12:35 am)Lutrinae Wrote: Sometimes I can be highly emotional and empathetic, and then one minute later I will be a total misanthrope.


Try letting the highly emotional and empathetic you get more air time here while the misanthrope part shuts to hell up.  Just a suggestion.   Rolleyes

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#26
RE: The empathy factor
(June 8, 2017 at 2:43 am)J a c k Wrote:
(June 7, 2017 at 5:37 pm)Mr.Obvious Wrote: Jack, as one social worker to another; you need to guard yourself.
To an extent, I know your strife. I too find it hard to shut off the balance between clients/work and your own life. It's why we are drawn to this kind of work as well as why it's difficult for us. It's not a surprise why, (at least in Belgian statistics,) so many social workers have burn-outs. It's an emotionally exhausting profession. You get critique from the higher ups, your colleagues, strangers and even your clients. You are always the middle-woman. You don't see the good case alll the way 'till the end to get that sense of accomplishment, only just far enough untill they don't need you. You however do see those stuck that you have to give it your all to just stop them from 'drowning'.

Can I ask you, how long have you been a social worker? I've been one for three years. It's only been a year since I've been able to seperate my own life from my work. The first two years were extremely draining. The third one is still, so far, but to a lesser extent.

Hello, one of my two fave newbies  Big Grin
I've worked in the field for about a decade, but in this specific job a little more than 3 years. I can't imagine doing anything else, because I'm good at this. I love helping people even though it's painful sometimes. I did have to leave my last job. It was too much for me. The cases I had were too raw and my little one needed me more than ever at the time. This job is more balanced, but I still get cases that feel like needles to the heart. Anywho... high five, fellow social worker. Smile

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#27
RE: The empathy factor
When I was very young I exhibited traits of empathy more than the standard young person. I'd worry about the pain of ANY living thing, from tiny insects to chickens.

 But I found that beyond the teenage years that will get hugely taken advantage of, especially when you're forced to mix with a fair few people who have psychotic tendencies of bullying, stealing, animal cruelty and so on.

I have no advice to give because I have 0 levels of practice or experience in being around people who are vulnerable like that, or having to care for them.

If the goal is to take your mind off things and to help you sleep better then I personally just put some comedy on youtube while I go to sleep or just before.  That kind of advice probably isn't going to change your life but it's what I do.


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#28
RE: The empathy factor
Literally millions of dollars have been given away to "penpals" by scrupulous individuals with a hard luck story.
They take advantage of peoples empathy.

If only this world was as caring, genuine and unselfish as you.
Sadly, it's not.

(If only I had 1,000 dollars for that urgently needed hip operation) Did I mention that I'm in severe pain! SEVERE I TELL YOU!
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