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"Free Will" Belief/Disbelief Poll
October 3, 2010 at 2:11 pm
(This post was last modified: October 3, 2010 at 2:13 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
I don't think we've had a poll on it before?
EDIT: Moderators/admins, I'd quite like this poll to show who voted. But I accidentally screwed up and forgot to select that option. Could anyone fix that for me? Thanks.
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RE: "Free Will" Belief/Disbelief Poll
October 3, 2010 at 2:32 pm
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By Free Will I mean the ability to willfully choose to "Do otherwise" at any given precise moment. So I am able, for example, at this exact moment to choose what I am doing, at that exact moment ( as that exact moment has now already passed).
Whether determined or undetermined the moments be, can we willfully control them when they are already happening? (I say not because I don't see how that's possible by definition. What is happening is happening whether it's determined or not. What will happen will happen whether determined to happen or not. What has happened has already happened, so no free choice there either).
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RE: "Free Will" Belief/Disbelief Poll
October 3, 2010 at 2:53 pm
I'm such a cheeky bastard. I answered 'yes' on both of your polls.
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RE: "Free Will" Belief/Disbelief Poll
October 3, 2010 at 2:56 pm
I think it should be believe we have free will & not believe in it.
I think we're free to choose what we would have chosen anyway. We are free agents really.
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RE: "Free Will" Belief/Disbelief Poll
October 3, 2010 at 2:58 pm
I voted no in both polls.
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RE: "Free Will" Belief/Disbelief Poll
October 3, 2010 at 3:02 pm
(October 3, 2010 at 2:56 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I think it should be believe we have free will & not believe in it.
I think we're free to choose what we would have chosen anyway. We are free agents really.
Frodo
Course we're free to choose otherwise that would suggest there was some 'planner' behind everything, which there is no proof for.
Any hoo I've just been to a different forum where someone called frodo had atheist as their religious stance.
Was that you or was it a coincidence?
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RE: "Free Will" Belief/Disbelief Poll
October 3, 2010 at 3:07 pm
I'm with-holding judgment on it. Until there is some data and evidence....I'm on the fence.
Once you take in the fact that chemical reactions play a gigantic role in how we behave and think, this causes me to wonder.
So I really don't know.
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You forgot to add the 'I don't know' option you bastard!
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Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
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RE: "Free Will" Belief/Disbelief Poll
October 3, 2010 at 3:17 pm
(October 3, 2010 at 3:09 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: My opinion there isn't a religious one, but one formulated from a discussion with Evie. If God knows everything that happens he doesn't restrict what we choose to do, because as I said, we are free agents. If we chose to believe or not, it would be our choice, and God would know how our lives pan out.
Yes that's me 
Thought so.
So are you an atheist now? your recent posts dont point that way, so colour me confused.
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