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No Trans In The Military Says Trump
RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(August 6, 2017 at 8:42 am)Dropship Wrote: What legal issues?
I've heard The Don say on TV to rapturous applause- "Whether we're black, white or brown, we all bleed the same red blood", that don't sound racist to me..Wink

Yeah, and I heard him say on the TV that Mexico's gonna pay for the wall he wants to erect.

As for what legal issues he's had, here's one. Pretty sure there are others out there.

(August 6, 2017 at 8:42 am)Dropship Wrote: As for the transgender thing, I'm surprised Don thinks it's important. Surely the only important thing is whether a GLBT is a bloody good soldier, sailor or airman?

I'm not surprised at all. This is a man whose political life is premised upon identifying and vilifying the outgroup.



(August 6, 2017 at 9:09 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(August 4, 2017 at 7:53 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Which is a whole 'nother aspect of stupidity, given that they had scads of evidence for Trump's bigotry, but not one shred for Killary. I think that double-standard says something about what they prefer to overlook and what they prefer to focus on. In this case, they clearly chose to overlook Trump's bigotry in favor of focusing on oft-debunked bullshit.

That, too speaks to their acceptance of bigotry. They would believe Pizzagate but disregard "Mexicans are rapists", "ban all Muslims", and so on.

It wasn't just Bengazi. It was her support of abortion including late term. I know at least a few people who voted for Trump for that reason.

I didn't mention Benghazi at all. If they are so disturbed by a vanishingly small percentage of abortions that they'd overlook the man's blatant bigotry in order to vote for him, I'd say that they find his bigotry more acceptable. Their concern about a fetus' right-to-life is apparently weightier than their concern about equal rights for Americans already at adulthood.

You can paint it how you wish; but the fact is that either Trump voters decided that his bigotry was acceptable if it got them what they wanted, they were bigots themselves, or they simply did not notice his bigotry. None of that changes the fact that they voted for a bigot.

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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
Quote: "Whether we're black, white or brown, we all bleed the same red blood

Of course he's going to say that . Modern racists are rarely overt anymore .It makes there agenda unpalatable . Instead they use dog whistles ., watch words, etc . So they always have a path to deniability when called out. It's never true just politics.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(August 6, 2017 at 9:37 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't have a problem with hormone therapy. But the surgery does seem like a big liability. Not only financially, but because it makes the person unemployable for a pretty long time.

Whoops, I meant undeployable here lol. Too late to edit
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
I'm actually having an emotional reaction right now, and it's this: FUCK OFFFFFFFFF!!!

I'm tired of hearing about everyone and their fucking identity and their fucking cause. I don't care about any of it, and I don't want to have to pretend that I give a shit.

If you're trans-- more power to you, good luck with that. I don't want to have to buy the pin or wear a colored headband. I'm not going to march for you. If you're a close personal friend, I will fight to the death for you if I think anyone is mistreating you. But if the military doesn't want to put up with you-- I'm fine with that, too. We don't need to make every social institution all about accommodating everyone's special snowflake status.
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Then it sounds like it isn't your problem, benny. Maybe you should go deal with your own problems and let us deal with ours. If you don't want to support someone, you could at least move out of their way.
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(August 7, 2017 at 7:09 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I'm actually having an emotional reaction right now, and it's this: FUCK OFFFFFFFFF!!!

I'm tired of hearing about everyone and their fucking identity and their fucking cause. I don't care about any of it, and I don't want to have to pretend that I give a shit.

If you're trans-- more power to you, good luck with that. I don't want to have to buy the pin or wear a colored headband. I'm not going to march for you. If you're a close personal friend, I will fight to the death for you if I think anyone is mistreating you. But if the military doesn't want to put up with you-- I'm fine with that, too. We don't need to make every social institution all about accommodating everyone's special snowflake status.

As I said, political correctness shouldn't be a reason for trans folks to be allowed in the military. I think they probably should be allowed simply because I have yet to see a problem with it or hear a good argument against it.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(August 7, 2017 at 7:09 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I'm actually having an emotional reaction right now, and it's this: FUCK OFFFFFFFFF!!!

I'm tired of hearing about everyone and their fucking identity and their fucking cause. I don't care about any of it, and I don't want to have to pretend that I give a shit.

If you're trans-- more power to you, good luck with that. I don't want to have to buy the pin or wear a colored headband. I'm not going to march for you. If you're a close personal friend, I will fight to the death for you if I think anyone is mistreating you. But if the military doesn't want to put up with you-- I'm fine with that, too. We don't need to make every social institution all about accommodating everyone's special snowflake status.

As an accepting conservative, I really like this dude.
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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(August 7, 2017 at 7:09 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I'm actually having an emotional reaction right now, and it's this: FUCK OFFFFFFFFF!!!

I'm tired of hearing about everyone and their fucking identity and their fucking cause.  I don't care about any of it, and I don't want to have to pretend that I give a shit.

If you're trans-- more power to you, good luck with that.  I don't want to have to buy the pin or wear a colored headband.  I'm not going to march for you.  If you're a close personal friend, I will fight to the death for you if I think anyone is mistreating you.  But if the military doesn't want to put up with you-- I'm fine with that, too.  We don't need to make every social institution all about accommodating everyone's special snowflake status.


Why don't you just fuck off with your own little special snowflake status, and stop bitching about people trying to maintain their right to fight for their own goddamn country?  

"Wah!  Look at me!  Look at me!"  That's all you're basically fucking saying.  You just want attention, because otherwise you'd have just shut the fuck up and ignored this topic.  But nope.  You decided to come here and whore for some goddamn attention.  Maybe your mother should have paid more attention to you so you wouldn't be such a whiny little twat.
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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(August 7, 2017 at 7:09 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I'm actually having an emotional reaction right now, and it's this: FUCK OFFFFFFFFF!!!

I'm tired of hearing about everyone and their fucking identity and their fucking cause.  I don't care about any of it, and I don't want to have to pretend that I give a shit.

If you're trans-- more power to you, good luck with that.  I don't want to have to buy the pin or wear a colored headband.  I'm not going to march for you.  If you're a close personal friend, I will fight to the death for you if I think anyone is mistreating you.  But if the military doesn't want to put up with you-- I'm fine with that, too.  We don't need to make every social institution all about accommodating everyone's special snowflake status.

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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
The dancing clown it again, it's a matter of time till twitter bans him. I'm sure it's not good for business to support or tolerate his tweets. I'm all for free speech, but it does get to a point to where it becomes dangerous. If a person stands on a corner rallying behind a series if massively untrue stereotypes, taking very isolated cases and blowing them up to unrealistic assumptions and this message is picked up by the masses. This could be the start of a new discourse in politics, laws, and other practices which is a road we have have been down already.....


If your unfamiliar all you need to do is pay attention to what is going in the background. I'll give you a moment to think about it....
you see that massive painting in the background right? It's the bigger picture, what has been set in motion will take many years to clean up. We're still dealing with the fall out of Clinton Bush, and Obama.

But, Obama did not cause nearly as much damage as Bush did. Now, the major question I have is; With the havoc he has reaped as his time as president, can the damage be repaired?

I'm starting to believe that we're beyond repair, the discourse from here and in future elections will be a similar Trump style of running and serving in office. I always laughed at the following clip, but I never thought I would have to live it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGUNPMPrxvA
     “A man isn't tiny or giant enough to defeat anything” Yukio Mishima


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