Invisible world

[ignoramus]

Obviously by God's actions!

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

You don't believer what you don't see.

Rubbish.  I believe lots of things I've never seen.  For example, I've never seen my pituitary gland, the interior of the Moon, or Johannesburg, but I have good and sufficient reasons to believe these things exist.

 

But science proved that there are forces and even matter, that is invisible to us.

Invisible to unaided human senses, but - fortunately - human beings have proved clever enough to come up with devices to assist us.  Case in point, Leeuwenhoek's 'animalcules'. 


 

Some sounds cannot be heard.

Correct, but you make the same mistake here that you made just above.  Simply because a sound is outside the range of human hearing doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. 

So God might be looking at you in the face without you even knowing it.

Yes, indeed she might.  More on this below.

If invisible things exist, and they are usually invisible for quite good reasons like high frequencies, distance, etc. How is the idea of God strange?

Suppose I stand near a sleeping dog and blow a dog whistle.  The dog wakes, perks his ears and looks around.  Which is the better explanation for Fido's reaction?  A)  He can hear a frequency that I can't, or B) Faeries pinched his bum and woke him up?  The idea of God is strange because it isn't a matter of distance or frequencies, but one of explanatory power.  There are better explanations for well, everything, than Goddidit.

Prophets are the people who communicated with God. Maybe they saw what me and you never saw.

Is there any way you can think of  to determine whether a prophet's experience (and I don't deny they experienced something) was God and not simply an hallucination or a psychotic episode?  Also, if  you're going to equate the inaccessibility of God to natural phenomena like frequencies and distances, then anyone should be able to replicate the experience of a prophet.  I didn't invent the telescope, but I can certainly look through one and replicate viewing the rings of Saturn.

Boru

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Amateurish stuff, this.

[Cyberman]

Thing is, there is literally no way to arrive at the idea of any god purely based on observation of the world. Without presupposing a god concept from the outset, nothing - from the behaviour of atoms to the movement of galaxies - comes with a label saying "handmade by a sexually repressed Middle Eastern deity (see manual for further information)", nor even remotely suggests anything like that. You would need someone to impose that concept on top of the evidence, whether that be a book of mythology or a preacher selling it to you.

Put simply, if our entire body of knowledge was wiped out tomorrow, all the discoveries of science would still be there to be rediscovered. Every god ever worshipped would be deleted forever.

[ignoramus]

Good point Stim.

Hey, CL. What if you woke up tomorrow with total amnesia.
How would YOU feel about it?

[purplepurpose]

Gods warriors are still better than this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu_2dAaszT0

"I like ya, and I want'cha. Now we can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way, the choice is yours".

[Brian37]

Good point Stim.

Hey, CL. What if you woke up tomorrow with total amnesia.
How would YOU feel about it?

That reminds me of the Progressive car insurance commercial, 

Guy, " Wasn't I the one who helped you when you had amnesia."

Susan Luchi, -" You know I can't remember that."

[zebo-the-fat]

I cannot see an electron, but I know their movements make this computer work.
I cannot see any gods, but I cannot see any effects caused by these gods.

[downbeatplumb]

This probably the simplest thing I ever noticed in the non-religious mind.

You don't believer what you don't see.
But science proved that there are forces and even matter, that is invisible to us.

Some sounds cannot be heard.

So God might be looking at you in the face without you even knowing it.
If invisible things exist, and they are usually invisible for quite good reasons like high frequencies, distance, etc. How is the idea of God strange?

Prophets are the people who communicated with God. Maybe they saw what me and you never saw.

The important part here is that science was able to detect them.

I heard a definition that something becomes science when it is detectable by something other than the human mind. It was Brian Cox I heard it from but I have no idea if originated it.

So till then, you have nothing.