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RE: Looks like the NRA is at it again
August 7, 2017 at 11:33 am
(August 6, 2017 at 3:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 6, 2017 at 1:56 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I disagree. Knowing who is and isn't witty enough to pick up on sarcasm is useful information.
You're largely correct, but I was thinking here of 37's health. He's going to bust a blood vessel frothing in righteous indignation at people who agree with him.
Boru
If you say you agree with me, then why would you coddle the NRA? They have been protecting the makers for decades and protecting their profits for decades.
My health is fine FYI. I am simply tired of one lobby holding our entire nation hostage to the tune of 36,000 firearm deaths per year.
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RE: Looks like the NRA is at it again
August 7, 2017 at 12:13 pm
No one is coddling the NRA, that's been made so abundantly clear that you're giving the impression of being deliberately obtuse. What I said was that this particular advert isn't likely to cause the majority of gun owners to shoot reporters.
Now do what you do best and take this perfectly innocuous statement and interpret it to mean that I don't support restrictions on firearms.
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RE: Looks like the NRA is at it again
August 7, 2017 at 12:40 pm
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(August 7, 2017 at 11:33 am)Brian37 Wrote: If you say you agree with me, then why would you coddle the NRA? They have been protecting the makers for decades and protecting their profits for decades.
My health is fine FYI. I am simply tired of one lobby holding our entire nation hostage to the tune of 36,000 firearm deaths per year.
This is a great example of what the NRA actually does. Do they seem to be advancing or protecting profits here....or a political ideology?
While the NRA fluffs for fake news and trumpsterism - the NSSF quietly lobbies for deregulation on arms embargo to active warzones and states under UN sanction. Additionally, they seek legislation that would allow them to conceal the end user and per unit value on any international transactions - largely a corporate PR issue when the end user is a human rights abuser - it interferes with bidding for DOD contracts; they don't want Uncle Sam to know how cheap they'll sell equipment in bulk to a despot.
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RE: Looks like the NRA is at it again
August 7, 2017 at 1:48 pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/...=emaildkre
Quote:The entire world is laughing about Donald Trump's 'small stick'
Quote:One was a link shared by a U.S. diplomat to the leaked transcript of a phone conversation between U.S. President Donald Trump and Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto. In the second, a former Mexican official offered the quick analysis.
"He's the opposite of Teddy Roosevelt," that official quipped to Guajardo about Trump. "He speaks loudly and carries a small stick."
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RE: Looks like the NRA is at it again
August 7, 2017 at 3:23 pm
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(August 7, 2017 at 12:40 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (August 7, 2017 at 11:33 am)Brian37 Wrote: If you say you agree with me, then why would you coddle the NRA? They have been protecting the makers for decades and protecting their profits for decades.
My health is fine FYI. I am simply tired of one lobby holding our entire nation hostage to the tune of 36,000 firearm deaths per year.
This is a great example of what the NRA actually does. Do they seem to be advancing or protecting profits here....or a political ideology?
While the NRA fluffs for fake news and trumpsterism - the NSSF quietly lobbies for deregulation on arms embargo to active warzones and states under UN sanction. Additionally, they seek legislation that would allow them to conceal the end user and per unit value on any international transactions - largely a corporate PR issue when the end user is a human rights abuser - it interferes with bidding for DOD contracts; they don't want Uncle Sam to know how cheap they'll sell equipment in bulk to a despot.
The NRA is still part of it, no not it's donaters per se. But as an organization lobby, it is part of a bigger global weapons industry and guns, like jets and tanks are big business. Violence is profitable, be it war or domestic crime. Fear sells.
(August 7, 2017 at 12:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No one is coddling the NRA, that's been made so abundantly clear that you're giving the impression of being deliberately obtuse. What I said was that this particular advert isn't likely to cause the majority of gun owners to shoot reporters.
Now do what you do best and take this perfectly innocuous statement and interpret it to mean that I don't support restrictions on firearms.
Boru
I did not miss that point. Again, this one add is not the sum of what the NRA does long term as far as tactic. No different than why dems keep losing elections because we don't think long term like the GOP does.
It still sells fear the same fear that allows 45 to gain support by saying "Fake News", it is still red meat to keep bad policy.
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RE: Looks like the NRA is at it again
August 7, 2017 at 4:19 pm
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(August 7, 2017 at 3:23 pm)Brian37 Wrote: The NRA is still part of it, no not it's donaters per se. But as an organization lobby, it is part of a bigger global weapons industry and guns, like jets and tanks are big business. Violence is profitable, be it war or domestic crime. Fear sells. Sure, it's part of the republican party apparatus, it's just not the gun lobby.
The gun lobby is far darker, and far better at what they do. -They- are part of the global weapons industry - the NRA's only reason to exist is to properly froth up rurals bout how HillaBammy is comin fer yer guns-an-suchlike!
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Looks like the NRA is at it again
August 7, 2017 at 7:02 pm
(August 7, 2017 at 4:19 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (August 7, 2017 at 3:23 pm)Brian37 Wrote: The NRA is still part of it, no not it's donaters per se. But as an organization lobby, it is part of a bigger global weapons industry and guns, like jets and tanks are big business. Violence is profitable, be it war or domestic crime. Fear sells. Sure, it's part of the republican party apparatus, it's just not the gun lobby.
The gun lobby is far darker, and far better at what they do. -They- are part of the global weapons industry - the NRA's only reason to exist is to properly froth up rurals bout how HillaBammy is comin fer yer guns-an-suchlike!
Glad I am not the only one who gets it.
The problem seems to be in the past 9 years the GOP went from simply dog whistle to flat out flame throwing fear.
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